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esshup #263497 07/01/11 11:50 AM
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Yes, there is some strings attached. The game warden can pull in at any time and check everyone for a fishing license but I have a lifetime one so that's no problem.

I will do some more research on the CNBG.

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Personally I wouldn't buy any fish from a guy who says CNBG are 90% female... At a very minimum, I'd check with the forum before making any final decision. Cause it sure seems that guy is FOS!

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+1. I think you should contact Eric West directly or Dave Davidson - they know about CNBG and their cold tolerances. I have no clue about their chances in Oklahoma....but they will.

Also, that 90% female claim cannot be accurate IMO. I would strongly consider contacting a new hatchery as this is a troubling statement coming from a fisheries professional....

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....free to a Sooner fan, of course! grin


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Originally Posted By: jludwig
We were talking to the guy whom we bought the fathead minnows from and he suggested we get coppernose bluegill because they are 90% female.


Be careful.

Did you see this thread?

Warrants issued for "Free Fish" guy...

You are far enough south for successful coppernose bluegill. They are bluegill -- just slightly different from what we have further north! They look slight different, and they grow faster than their northern cousins when in the south. They should be in 50/50 - male/female. They should be pure-strain.

I'd stay away from this dealer.

Being where you are, I'd recommend contacting Bob Lusk at Pond Boss headquarters for reputable dealers in your area.


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Well I know last winter was one of the coldest ones I have ever seen in life. One morning it warmed up 50 degrees and we were still below freezing. Unheard for this area.

We will keep you in mind TJ. The main problem is whether or not we get more water in it.

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Dave, it kinda caught me off guard. Unless I heard my father, who was the one getting the fathead minnows as I had class at the time, wrong that is what he told me. That just seems like an extreme amount.

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You can probably stock CNBG there and have them survive 95% of the time. However, OK winters can get pretty severe.

Personally, and only personally, I would stock plain BG. And I would get them from a different source than the guy who has the supposed 90% female ones.


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I think this pond would be deep enough to support CNBG through the winter but I am not sure.

I am glad I am not the only that thought the 90% female/male ratio of CNBG was a bit odd.

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Have a lake that has produced a lot of 10-12 lb bass and one 13 lb 4 oz bass. We started with a dry lake bed several years ago and stocked copper nose then Fla Bass and later some Northern. Problem we thought would be the other 8 lakes up the stream that drain into our lake from other farms that most go un checked. They have crappie , cat and who knows what else that we have no control over. I decided the last few years to have a crappie contest and turned the boys that have permits to fish our bass lake to challange them to catch as many crappie as they could. Must remove all caught and if too small to fillet dispose of. At best count from records this spring they cleaned around 1200 fish in the 1/2 to 2 1/2 lb range and we had some good eating. My wife loved it.
Some of the same guys just caughts several 4-5lb , 8 lb, 10lb 4 oz and various other size large mouth. We have water flowing through our lake nearly 365 days a year. Next years the boys are going to have to harvest 2400 crappie or loose their permitts. Talking about pressure !!!!!!!!!! Everyone is happy. Bass guys,crappie guys, my wife, my wife, my wife. Lake is about average size of 12 acres or so at normal pool. Located N.E. Alabama. Most ponds here that have crappie in them wind up with thousands of little crappie. Richey

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Welcome to the forum richey. Sounds like you have a rare pond, eerrrr lake. Any photos of the lake and those nice fish being caught out of it? We love photos here on the forum... Jump in and share your experiences and ask some questions if you have any!

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Thanks this is the first forum I have ever participated in. That was my first response. I will get a photo of Tonys 10 lb 4 oz. bass. We are blessed to have 5 ponds here. The Richey Lake about 12 acres my son build for his FFA Environomental Project in Highschool. Our Duck Pond just behind the Richey Lake which we feed with an 8 inch pipe and valve. Our R. Brown Lake wich sits on the side of a hill about 15 feet above Richey Lake and drains into Richey Lake. I think it is about 8 acres and our Dakota Lake which is 15 feet higher than the R.Brown lake and drains into the R.Brown lake. Then we have a 1/2 pond called the Whitt pond that we grow bullfrogs in. No fish. All of these have been experimental for us. oppps didnt mean to change the subject . I get carried away sometimes. I love to build ponds and grow fish . Have some questions where in the world do I ask them on this forum without messing up someone else or being rude.

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Welcome to the forum Richey. That's a good management plan to stay ahead of the crappie! My hats off to you.

To start your own thread, go to the sub forum that you think it belongs, and right below the tab that says control panel, there is a tab that says start a new post or something like that. Click on that, fill in the title and then the body of the message.


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Don't worry richey, give it your best to place the post in the right subforum, but no one is gonna get mad at you for posting something in the "wrong" place. It just sometimes helps to put it in the most accurate subforum so the right people with interest in that area are most likely to see it...

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TJ, we might take you up on that offer but stocking is not in the picture right now.

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Just an update. Yesterday, right or wrong we traveled to the state fish hatchery and got the fish we applied for. They were bluegill 3/4" to 1 1/2" and channel cats 1-2".

We were feeding them Aquamx 400 today and I noticed something very interesting. The feed was floating around and floated over a crawdad hole in the water. The crawdad came out of his hole and was using his pinchers to gather some Aquaxmax 400 in his mouth.

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Another update: The bluegill are reaching 2" and coming up to feed along shore and the catfish are chowing down on feed more in the middle of the pond. Have seen three crawdads that are about 8 inches in lenght.

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Those are some big crawdads!

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Those crawdads would be dinner!


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An 8 inch crawdad would basically be a lobster! Got my fork, what's the address?

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If you can teach a fish to use a fork, I will be impressed grin

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i'd like some of them crawdads!

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If you read the thread, you can see how we established them or pm me with questions.

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We got finally got pond water! The current water level is about 4 foot low. Who knew we would get a pond filling rain in November.

The dock is finally ready to float. Hope to float it tomorrow afternoon.

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Seeing signs that the stocking of crawdads was successful. Also seen many skeletons of the crayfish.



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