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Allmadness #261337 06/07/11 04:05 PM
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Got a call from Keystone today - they do have LMB left - 8-10" range is what I am told. I just got 150LMB - so not going to get any. Thanks to everyone that pointed me to Keystone, they are on my list for next year.

Any thoughts on the videos I posted above?

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Those 8"-10" Keystone bass would do better job of eating the small size of BG in your video. The other fish in the video looked like a HBG to me. It would have been better if the camera was held still in one close up spot instead of panning all around. But IMO you have HBG.


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Bill,Bill you are killing me. Can't do the 8-10" this year. Well next year maybe I can do the keystone route and have a larger tank to get 50 pounds.

Here are 2 pictures of the other fish - notice the top and bottom rear fins are yellow tipped is that a male female thing? Like all of yellow tipped are male?

Thanks for your input.

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I don't want to interrupt Bill, as he is far more knowledgeable than myself, but the orange tipped fins are usually indicative of a hybrid sunfish of some sort. Both males and females will display this coloration to some degree.

From your pics, I feel you definitely have Hybrids of some makeup in your pond. To be honest, I am not sure what to make of those last pics. HBG can show a lot of variation naturally, so they may be "standard" MBG x FGSF. I think you could be looking at a backcross of some sort, or a generation/s removed from the original F1's.

Again, trust what Bill says... I'm still trying to figure out all of this HBG stuff as I go....

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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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IMO from viewing the pics you have :

BG , GSF , HBG , WM , and a host of lepomis crosses (hybrid sunfish).
















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Originally Posted By: ewest
IMO from viewing the pics you have :

BG , GSF , HBG , WM , and a host of lepomis crosses (hybrid sunfish).


It must be common to get a lot of crosses when you don't have any/enough predator fish?

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I think any time you have GSF you are going to end up with a host of crosses. And many FX gene pools.

Look at it this way, the hybrids should at least get bid enough to eat, or a few of them anyway, and they are tasty critters.

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Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
The other fish look like some sort of hybrid sunfish to me. I still can not get a good look at the upper jaw. Those bass will have to survive on and get 'going' utilizing 1"-2" sunfish-BG. I hope there are plenty of them for those bass to eat. YOur water appears clear enough for the bass to adequately see and catch small fish. if those bass get enough food they should be 9" by mid October. Catch a few then and check for growth.


I said in my post reply to your above comment I would bet money I couldn't catch a Bass. Well I was wrong, went out last night and caught 10 LMB. They had to be from the stocking last week. So I just donated $25 to Pond Boss.

Should I not be fishing with the stocking of the LMB? I really didn't think I would catch any.? Maybe not fish for a few weeks? or not at all? THoughts?

Update on removal:
Sun fish - 350
Bluegill - 24
Crappie - 157
Bullheads - 79
Total = 610

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