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#235286 09/20/10 10:54 PM
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Last spring I mucked out our old golf course pond. Stocked it with 5lbs of FH's and let it go till this spring. I then stocked it with approx 75 LMB from my 7acre pond averging 8-12inches with about a dozen 16-24inchers. Put in about 200 BG between 4-6 inches. Half dozen CC and 2 Triploid Grass Carp. First half of the summer the LMB would follow you around the pond like pets, but I have had a huge growth of pond grass along the edges of the deep end with the shallows being covered. Now I never see the bass. The FH minnows are all over breeding non-stop. Is this normal with the pond maturing, I have not fished it yet want to give it time. Any recomodations with my stocking? I would like to get more Grass carp there just so expensive where I live. I paid $250 for five but only two lived the first month. Is the grass good the FH's seem to love it. I also have ALOT of frogs.

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Hey Cody welcome to the PBF. First off how big is this pond? I don't know that I would have put the larger bass in there that may have been a mistake?? Only time will tell. 250 bucks for 5 GC!!!!!! cry OUCH!!! I can get them for $3.50 a piece! The would bet the LMB are down in them weeds. I have the same problem. Minnows all over on top of the weeds everywhere. You would think you would have bass flying out of the water after them hey? Course if you put in a few 24 inch LMB you may not have to many of those original 8 inchers left as they may have ate some of them. A 24 inch bass can eat a 10 inch fish or at least try to! It wouldn't hurt to throw a popper out here and see what happens. Test the waters a little and see if you can catch one of those bass! My guess is though you may want to stock more BG if you have that many big bass in this pond. Big bass require BIG food!!


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The pond is half an acre, maybe alil less. Im going back to my big pond today to get some more bluegills to throw in there. If anyone knows a place around central PA to get grass carp please let me know. I do not mind driving a few hours... The las ones I got were shipped from Alabama and they raped me on shipping plus did not ship very well.

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Cody you put waaaaaaaay to many bass in that half acre pond buddy! On average they say you should have about 50 pounds per acre of predator fish. And if you fertilize you can more than likely double that. So if your fertilizing you should have no more than 50 pounds of LMB. And if your not fertilizing then around 25 to 30 pounds of bass. Heck you got 30 or more pounds in the first 75 you put in there and then you put in a 12 more larger bass. Your bass are going to clean that place out quick and then you will have stunted bass on your hands. I am no expert by any means, but I bet you need to take out about 25 of those 8 to 10 inchers, unless you want a pond full of skinny bass then your ok!! smile Lets see what the experts have to say first!

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Cody, shipping fish isn't cheap....or easy. I don't know how many or how big were involved, but you can't expect fish to be like a regular package.

RC51, not many of us live in the fish farming capital of the world smile. Most places charge about $1 per inch and if Cody got (5) 10" fish, a $200 shipping charge is high, but not completely out of line. I average a shipping charge of $140 for FedEx and $200 for same day air to a major airport.

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75 LMB total 15 are lunkers. I added 30 BG's today about 3-5inches. Will add more. Pond is airated and the FH's are like cockroaches there everywhere. We also put in about 10 5gallon buckets of crayfish in there this spring, loads of frogs. I cant imaginge there in need of food.

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Well 75 total is still pretty high for a half acre pond, but it sounds like you did do good though with adding the crayfish also. That was a good call!


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Cody:

For LMB to grow and thrive, they need food that's roughly 1/4 their body length. They can do with smaller food, but for the larger LMB to thrive on FHM would be like you trying to add weight by chasing down butterflies. While each butterfly would give you some calories, each one would take more calories to burn than you'd get.


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So you recomend taking some of the smaller bass out and adding more BG ?

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If you were to add up the weight of all the LMB in your pond, what would that number be?


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Originally Posted By: Cody Veach
So you recomend taking some of the smaller bass out and adding more BG ?


I would say yes to that. Remember like esshup said also they need room to grow as well. Most will tell you that if you fertilize the pond in a half acre you could hold around 50 to 75 pounds of bass in it. If you not fertilizing you can hold around 25 to 30 pounds of bass. So lets do some math here.

You said you are aerating the pond if I remember right so that's good. That helps your carrying capacity a little more.

So you put in 75 bass of which 12 of which were 16 to 24 inches and the rest 8 to 12 inches.

So that's about 63 smaller bass. Most bass I catch that are 12 inches run about 8 to 10 ounces. So lets say 8 ounces to even them all out and make this a little easier. That would mean you have about 32 pounds of bass just in your smaller fish. Now you have about a dozen LMB that average lets just say 2 pounds on the low side. That 24 more pounds of fish. So you have a low end total of about 56 pounds of LMB in your half acre pond already and they havent even started to grow at all. Now if you were fertilizing the pond that may be ok. But if you not then you are a little bass heavy. Like I said in the earlier post you need to take out about 20 to 25 of the smaller bass so the other bass have room for growth as well. Hope that helps. And any experts out there please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I am no expert that's for sure but I am learning pretty quick!! smile

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I would say 50lbs of LMB is about what I have in there. I found a great little pond yesterday on the orchard next to my pond located in the middle of the woods "Google maps is great for finding ponds." LOADED with BG caught 27 in about 30mins. I put them in a 500 gallon rubbermaid container for quarentine. If they show no problems I would like to keep feeding them to my LMB. This pond is about 1/8th of acre but just loaded with BG, I figure if I get a large amount of BG outa there by spring after the spawn I can move some of my Bass to that pond since it has no LMB in it plus feed my 1/2acre with the BG I remove. Here are a few Pics of my larger LMB.

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Yeah that's sounds like a good plan. Would be nice to have a second pond to have as a feeder pond to raise fish in. Your bigger bass look pretty good. And if you going to keep all them bass in that half acre pond you better feed, feed, feed them, cause there going to need it. You will start to be able to tell when they are not being fed enough once you notice there heads are bigger than there body. At that point you either need to cull some of the bass or get a bunch more forage for them.

Good Luck, and thanks for the pics,


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I seen invisible fish in the title.. If your interested in purchasing invisible fish I have a sh**load. I will even sell them for cheap. Bad thing about the invisible fish there next to impossible to clean....UNLESS you have invisible glasses, which I also sell kinda pricey and hard to use correctly. Invisible fish can only be caught on invisible tackle-another product I carry. If interested I can send you everything in an invisible box. All payment types accepted except invisible money..


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laugh grin Good one BK!


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