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Proof of female bluegill helmet development. #209431 03/22/10 08:01 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States	Richmond Mill is incredible!!! More later after I catch my breath. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209432 03/22/10 08:02 AM
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Dave Willis Lunker D Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,587 South Dakota State University	Keep the pics coming, Dr. Bruce!! Subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine From Bob Lusk: Dr. Dave Willis passed away January 13, 2014. He continues to be a key part of our Pond Boss family...and always will be.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Dave Willis #209433 03/22/10 08:24 AM
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ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,709 Likes: 370 Miss.	Nice CNBG. Stats ?

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. ewest #209438 03/22/10 09:00 AM
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Bill Cody Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker B Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 15,511 Likes: 1220 Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH	You do truly know how to hold and handle the females. Very nice pic. BC based on others you caught there, are you thinking both fish are females or only the one in your left hand? Do male CNBG that large and with dark hue have black scale tipping on the nape? Last edited by Bill Cody; 03/22/10 09:09 AM. aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine - America's Journal of Pond Management

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209441 03/22/10 09:06 AM
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Omaha Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,837 Likes: 21 Colorado	Incredible. What a place. $\:o$ Subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine NEFGA

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Omaha #209459 03/22/10 10:09 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States	Nice bass, too. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209460 03/22/10 10:10 AM
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jeffhasapond Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker J Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,615 Likes: 7 Pond in No CA, Me in So CA	Dang!!! What are the length and weight of that bass? JHAP ~~~~~~~~~~ "My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." ...Hedley Lamarr (that's Hedley not Hedy)

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. jeffhasapond #209462 03/22/10 10:23 AM
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Rainman Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker R Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,100 Likes: 24 St Louis, MO area	SUUWEEET!!!!

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Rainman #209467 03/22/10 10:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States	These bluegill were a mere 11.5 to 12 inches, and about 1-12 The LMB was 21.5 inches, and heaven knows how much it weighed. Maybe Lusk will chime in. The Boga Grips are a little iffy on weighing, but I'd say this fish was close to 8 lbs. We caught some bluegill that were a full 50% bigger that we'll share photos of later. I'm convinced the fish in my right hand is a CNBG male. Yes, they typically had nape scale tipping, but many of these fish lack the large eartab development. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209468 03/22/10 11:02 AM
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OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States	13 inch bluegill from the front. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209475 03/22/10 11:48 AM
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Todd3138 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,505 Likes: 3 North Central WV	Dang! Those are serious BG! Never having caught one even approaching that size, I'm curious what the fight is like? What kind of a rod/reel setup were you fishing when you caught these? Todd La Neve Click Here to Subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine 1.5 & .5 ac ponds - LMB, BG, RES, YP, GC, HSB

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Todd3138 #209476 03/22/10 11:59 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States	Excellent fights! The 13 incher in particular was amazing. I was using a Ray Scott 7 foot spinning rod and a Shimano Solstace 1000 reel with 4 lb test Trilene XL. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209478 03/22/10 12:12 PM
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Todd3138 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,505 Likes: 3 North Central WV	So I'm assuming that was a medium to medium-heavy action rod? I know the 7 and 8 inch BG we catch are a real hoot on an ultralight setup, but I probably can't even begin to imagine the difference between them and those monsters you hauled in! Todd La Neve Click Here to Subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine 1.5 & .5 ac ponds - LMB, BG, RES, YP, GC, HSB

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Todd3138 #209480 03/22/10 12:33 PM
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Magnolia Rick Lunker M Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 156 texas	man Bruce them are just hogs nice nice and nice Just working my pond for Grandkids GET THE NET PAWPAW

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Magnolia Rick #209482 03/22/10 01:08 PM
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esshup Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 29,117 Likes: 1038 Grovertown, Indiana	I can't believe how thick the fish is! www.hoosierpondpros.com http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4 3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209485 03/22/10 01:32 PM
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Omaha Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,837 Likes: 21 Colorado	Bruce, you're reminding me of that guy in those BK commercials. With your tiny hands. Subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine NEFGA

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bill Cody #209489 03/22/10 01:46 PM
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ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,709 Likes: 370 Miss.	Originally Posted By: Bill Cody Do male CNBG that large and with dark hue have black scale tipping on the nape? Yes. IMO no difference in sexing traits except the copper band on males in season as an added trait. Here are a few. Last edited by ewest; 03/22/10 02:01 PM.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209495 03/22/10 02:12 PM
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rmedgar Ambassador Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker R Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,435 S. Mississippi	Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello The LMB was 21.5 inches, and heaven knows how much it weighed. Maybe Lusk will chime in. The Boga Grips are a little iffy on weighing, but I'd say this fish was close to 8 lbs. We caught some bluegill that were a full 50% bigger that we'll share photos of later. WOW, a 12+ lb BG. Can't wait for the pictures!!! Just do it...

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. rmedgar #209496 03/22/10 02:53 PM
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jakeb Lunker J Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma	WOW Bruce, with your photo technique, I would have thought that fish was 15 lbs! And a 13 inch BG is something else. I need to find a way to get out there and fish! Get out and fish.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. jakeb #209504 03/22/10 05:09 PM
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Bob Lusk Editor, Pond Boss Magazine Lunker Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,355 Likes: 118 Granbury, Texas	I'll add some details, too.... I'm at Richmond Mills/King Fisher, with Jim Morgan and Dave Buhler right now. Will add some comments after I meet with these guys. Teach a man to grow fish... He can teach to catch fish...

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bob Lusk #209508 03/22/10 05:45 PM
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s_montgomery Lunker S Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 71 SWVA	Anyone else notice how wide the bands on the BG in right hand are?

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. s_montgomery #209517 03/22/10 07:36 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States	A quarter just ain't what it used to be. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. Bruce Condello #209519 03/22/10 07:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States	Don't mess with me! Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. s_montgomery #209520 03/22/10 07:52 PM
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ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,709 Likes: 370 Miss.	Originally Posted By: s_montgomery Anyone else notice how wide the bands on the BG in right hand are? That is one of several CNBG traits.

Re: Proof of female bluegill helmet development. ewest #209521 03/22/10 07:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States	I caught PR's including the following. Bluegill 2-10 LMB 8+ Pickeral 18 inches, weight unknown Black crappie 18 inches, 2.75 lbs. Some kind of sucker that I caught was about two pounds. Here's that crazy crappie. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.