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So how cold has it been? The ice has been building at a rate of a little more of an inch per day. 6 days to go from 2 inches of ice to 8.25 inches!

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The next question is have you been ice fishing yet?


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No ice fishing by anyone so far.


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How hard was it to take the last weekly readings and how did you accomplish the task ?
















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When the ice was two inches (last week), I walked out there and bored holes (by hand) along the way checking the ice thickness. When I reached the reading coordinates I bored another hole and took the readings. That was all there was to that. I did have a safety rope tied around my waist and had my ice picks around my neck, just in case. Two inches of clear ice on the pond is plenty strong for one person.

This week I drove the Mule out there and power auger-ed a bunch of holes around the pound checking the thickness. It was 8.25" everywhere that I checked. The Mule is probably safe on 5-6 inches though I don't go out there unless it is 7 and I prefer 8.

So other than the modes of transportation and the need to bore a hole in the winter its pretty easy to accomplish. I have a lot of experience which helps. \:\)


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The ice is now thick enough to drive a road vehicle on and I suspect the stick will be the first to do so, early next week.

With D.O. readings all near the saturation level we are in good shape for another long cold winter. I would prefer a cool short winter. It seems we are in several year extended period of below normal year-around temperatures.

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Now that the ice is thick enough to drive on, could you review your fishing rules by specie? I think others on the forum may be interested. Did you want me to do a stomach contents check on a LMB?


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Could you review your fishing rules by specie? I think others on the forum may be interested.

Ok, we'll see if they are interested.

First off, there are very few persons that are allowed to fish on Bremer Pond. These "rules" are only meant for those select few and all others are summarily banned from fishing on Bremer Pond.




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Dwight - You really have Topeka shiners? Have they been verified by Dr. Dave? Topeka shiners site specific spawners and normally spawn around the edges of GSF and orange spotted sunfish nests often but not always in streams. Their midwestern distribution is rather limited and it would be really interesting if you have then surviving in your pond.

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Interesting! Dwight, what are your goals for your pond (fishery wise)?


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You really have Topeka shiners?


We are located in a Topeka Shiner corridor in southwest Minnesota. No bait fish are allowed to be removed from any of the area waters ; streams, rivers and lakes.

If you want to know more PM me, the DNR may be monitoring the forum.


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Dwight, what are your goals for your pond (fishery wise)?


My fishery goals are quite simple in my mind. The problem I have is explaining them to some else.

Try this: A balanced fishery with large game fish on natural forage in a balanced pond environment.

See what I mean! The explanation of what that means and how it works would take a lot more words.


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This weeks big Snow Storm made taking the measurements more of a challenge. Actually the challenge was getting to the observation location.

I learned that a Mule with chains is only good up to about 2 feet of snow and even then it functions more like a snow paddle boat. It rides on the skid plates with all the wheels churning away. Steering becomes becomes more point and hope (you know like Metro-Plex Texans on ice) than actual steering. And yes, I did so some shoveling! \:\(




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I was concerned that no one was interested in this thread anymore. I monitored how many times the thread was viewed. 139 views in 44 hours. It takes very little positive reinforcement to keep me going, but I was surprised that there were that many views. \:\)


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 Originally Posted By: Dwight
I was concerned that no one was interested in this thread anymore. I monitored how many times the thread was viewed. 139 views in 44 hours. It takes very little positive reinforcement to keep me going, but I was surprised that there were that many views. \:\)


For what it's worth Dwight, I usually read the updates on the email since I subscribe to this thread. Probably doesn't count as a view this way, but know that I, for one and probably others as well, stay updated this way.

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I sure follow this info. It always has some point that makes me think about what I am seeing and what it means. Like this time an initial surprise of the relationship of the DOs and that they were dropping and that top DOs were highest followed by mid and then bottom. Then I remembered that the colder the water the more DO it will hold. That accounts for the relationship but not that all 3 were falling while the water cools. Better look and think some more.

Also the ice build has really slowed.



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That accounts for the relationship but not that all 3 were falling while the water cools. Better look and think some more.

Also the ice build has really slowed.


The water had cooled a least a week before the DO levels started to fall in unison.

I believe that both the DO drop and the slowed build in ice are due to the heavy snow cover. Snow cover reduces the light that penetrates the water thus reducing the photosynthesizing ability of plant life. The heavy snow cover also insulates the pond from the cold air temperatures.

A case can also be made that the DO levels are at their peak when the ice cover becomes permanent(for the duration of the current winter). When clear ice builds rapidly it traps excess DO under the ice that will dissipate rapidly if snow cover intervenes in the photosynthesizing process. The peak DO readings were at or above saturation levels during rapid early ice build.


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I was concerned that no one was interested in this thread anymore. I monitored how many times the thread was viewed. 139 views in 44 hours. It takes very little positive reinforcement to keep me going, but I was surprised that there were that many views. \:\)


Colour me permanently interested in your activities - big D. I promise to dust off your posts if need be from time to time.

I love your snowchains on the MULE - I take it you have a blade and its as much fun as I'm imagining busting drifts with your Tonka toy?


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No snow blade, but I am thinking about getting one.

Big Boys Toys Syndicate parallel thinking in action!


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Don't forget the front end winch with grappling hook option and to mount the .30 Cal Browning on the back - Rat Patrol style. Maybe the submersible package allowing you to verify fish populations...?


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Don't forget ... to mount the .30 Cal Browning on the back - Rat Patrol style.

I thought that was a Ma Deuce.


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With our overnight low of -32F (a record for this date) I thought I might wait a day or two to take the readings. Then the temperature soared to -8F and there was no doubt that waiting was not an option.

Check out the big drop in bottom D.O.


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Only 7.6" of ice? Did you lose ice? What's your thoughts on the lower DO readings due to snow cover on the ice?


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The ice scale is on the left side, 14.5 inches.


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