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ewest #307043 09/20/12 12:35 PM
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5 different fish? That sure seems like a ton of work, still not sure how that would make such a large fish as the GG.

Are GG even available anymore or have they been diluted so much you would not find them?

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Originally Posted By: Bill Duggan
I was told by an employee of Ken's that I knew fairly well that GG is a cross between five different species of fish and only Ken and his son Jason know the exact cross. I'm not saying this is true and the person who told me was repeating what they were told, as take that for what it is worth.

ewest could someone run a DNA test on a GG as get the mix if not the cross


Bill I have a little story to tell you. I bought several GG in the 1990's and had some moster fish. I started showing them to people in my area and sending them to Ken's. One Saturday I was to be in the area and dropped in on Ken's (very nice fellow I might add) to pick up some bass fingerlings. For some reason the order was not ready and Ken took time to show me around and talk about some things while the order was being corrected. Anyway we got on the subject of the GG and the make up of the fish I had . I was told the fish came from 4 different fish. However a 5th could have been breeded in since then. Do not know what species so I will not speculate on that. However I do remember something like atleast 1 species was a very aggressive predator to make aggressive food consumption for the growth rate.
BTW I remember by the time I left Ken was laughing with me for showing up in a 2 door sports car to pick up fish. LOL

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(((LMB X Warmouth) X GSF) X RES) X CNBG

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Originally Posted By: Tums
Originally Posted By: Bill Duggan
I was told by an employee of Ken's that I knew fairly well that GG is a cross between five different species of fish and only Ken and his son Jason know the exact cross. I'm not saying this is true and the person who told me was repeating what they were told, as take that for what it is worth.

ewest could someone run a DNA test on a GG as get the mix if not the cross


Bill I have a little story to tell you. I bought several GG in the 1990's and had some moster fish. I started showing them to people in my area and sending them to Ken's. One Saturday I was to be in the area and dropped in on Ken's (very nice fellow I might add) to pick up some bass fingerlings. For some reason the order was not ready and Ken took time to show me around and talk about some things while the order was being corrected. Anyway we got on the subject of the GG and the make up of the fish I had . I was told the fish came from 4 different fish. However a 5th could have been breeded in since then. Do not know what species so I will not speculate on that. However I do remember something like atleast 1 species was a very aggressive predator to make aggressive food consumption for the growth rate.
BTW I remember by the time I left Ken was laughing with me for showing up in a 2 door sports car to pick up fish. LOL


Would you happen to have any pictures of your Monster GG you had back then. It should would be nice to know what fish were used. Even if one had all the fish involved, pairing them up could be another story.

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Would you happen to have any pictures of your Monster GG you had back then. It should would be nice to know what fish were used. Even if one had all the fish involved, pairing them up could be another story.


Sorry I do not, I lost 99% of my stuff in a house fire just over 10 years ago.

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Tums I also had good dealings with Ken, but some longtime posters here that I respect did not. It seems the futher in the past the better the experience was.

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Originally Posted By: Bill Duggan
Tums I also had good dealings with Ken, but some longtime posters here that I respect did not. It seems the futher in the past the better the experience was.

Hey I understand. I had good dealings with him, but I had a relative & a friend that did not years later. I always let the fish speak for themselves in my situation. I just simply forwarded the people that asked about them to where I got the GG.

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That's a good fish alright, but are there any photos of a truly large GG? Besides the same one (Bubba) that's all over the internet?


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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Not that I have. I am only posting ones I know are GG.

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Sprkplug's fish are just incredible!!! I am so impressed.


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Sparkplug is costing me a lot of money! grin

As some of you may know, we built a quarter-acre "put-and-take" pond this past spring time. It filled with water during the first week due to a storm. The next week we put in 100 HBG, 50 CC, 50 RES, and lots of fatheads.

Tomorrow, I'm putting in an additional 150 HBG and an additional 50 RES.

Sparkplug's success with HBG has really driven me.

I'd never before dealt with HBG. But, these fish are crazy. They are vicious. They attack food like sharks in a chum line.

Thanks Sparkplug!


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Ken, what's the outlook on the storm for your place?


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Ken, what's the outlook on the storm for your place?


The forecasts are all over the place. I'm guessing we won't know until the middle of next week -- when it is well past us.

We are prepared for the worst.

However, we've not made any changes to our plans, including our youngest grand daughter's Saturday birthday party at Chucky Cheeses' party palace.

I'm just not ready to put the snow plow and chains on the tractor. I'd rather go trick en treating!


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Update

After I posted above, I checked the local news and weather. They are now calling the upcoming weather as a "Frankenstorm".


http://www.wtop.com/?nid=893&sid=3092498


Sheesh!


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Ken, sorry about the financial strain..... It will be worth it, I promise! wink

The storm looks bad, stay safe......


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If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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The new HBG and RES have been added to the pond. This essentially doubles the number of each in this small pond. I figure I'll do this each spring and fall to keep a ready supply of fish growing.

As for the storm -- we just don't know. They are calling for sustained 60 mph winds on Sunday. The latest forecasts show the edge the really heavy snow hitting south and west of us by about 50 miles at elevations above 2500 feet. We are at a measly 1300 feet.


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WOW!!


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

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I also had some good dealng with kens fish hatchery until the last few years. I think it went in the hole after ken past away. Tried several times to get intouch with them. When i finally did they never could fill the orders. The GG was a fairly good HBG, Especially the first year. After that they seemed to go down hill.

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That's a common statement around here..


I believe in catch and release. I catch then release to the grease..

BG. CSBG. LMB. HSB. RES.

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Originally Posted By: Bone
I also had some good dealng with kens fish hatchery until the last few years. I think it went in the hole after ken past away. Tried several times to get intouch with them. When i finally did they never could fill the orders. The GG was a fairly good HBG, Especially the first year. After that they seemed to go down hill.

I understand that Bone & You will find that you and I are in the minority here to have had a good experience with Ken's. The majority of the people that post on here about there experience with Ken's have had a different experience (bad from day 1).
Yes, you are right about the offspring of the GG going down hill with each generation.
Welcome aboard.

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The last time i was there they had fallen on bad times, closed down about 90% of their opperation and fired everybody that worked there. Had the place for sell at one time. The banks had forclosed on them is what the lady said in the office.Tried reaching them over the last few weeks and got someone on the phone that couldnt tell me a thing, said they were trying to sell off what fish they had. Guess i will be looking for another Hatchery to buy fish at.

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Contact Greg Grimes for fish.

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Location: Ball Ground, GA

Email: greg@lakework.com


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