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I have had similar looking films here (in the warm months) without ill effects. IIRC stuff that like has been identified as "organic proteins" or some such. I have always figured mine were the result of some (small floating) algae growth.

Sorry to see the CC pond basically gone, but you are right to use the silver lining and plan some remedial dirtwork. Those pics really demonstrate how far it is between Ohio and South TX - everything up here is soaking wet and freezing today.


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I agree with Theo. Sorry about the pond.
















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We never dreamed the CC pond would go dry, but we also never thought we'd see a drought this bad. Most of the area ponds are dry. We created the LMB pond 18' deep (max) and the crappie pond 23' deep (max) so this won't happen to them. We're about 9' low on the ponds.

With the water out of our way, we figured now would be a great time to add more shoreline structure to the LMB pond. We do not have enough yoy BG based on Todd's electrofishing survey even though there are plenty of larger ones. The pond is so low that there is no shoreline vegetation or structure for them to survive. We added even more structure now so that when (if?) we ever get rain, there will be plenty of cover.










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ditto the pondal condolences, Dave. Never say never, eh?

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You have some really good sized bass in your pond what did Todd think think the growth rate was. Sorry about the drought I can really understand that part. I think everyone in Texas needs rain.

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Are you going to stock more of the forage base after the report?

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Yes. GS fry and lots of Talapia. This is provided we get rain. Probably give BGs time and see what they do. I am convienced the Talapia take alot of pressure off them. May do a purge of Fhs. I like to add 100-120 lbs. a couple times a year. Fun to watch.

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Wow, sorry to see that. You guys must be near Heybud?


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Actually, Heybud is over 250 miles away from us (he's pretty much due north).

Texas is just that dry throughout most of the state. It really is getting critical down here. Many ponds in our area are dry. Livestock and wildlife are losing places to water. Forget crops...those have been long gone.

I take back everything bad I said about alligator gar and carp washing into the ponds when the creek runs. Without the creek running, two of our ponds won't get water. We need the water--we'll take whatever else washes in.

P.S.- Theo and ewest, thanks for the help re: the filmy substance in the crappie pond. The fish seemed to be doing fine, but the surface of the pond on the wind-driven side is unsightly. We'll keep an eye on it and hopefully it will clear on its own.


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Can you drill a water well? I thougt the water table was shallow where you are.

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James around 900' to do any good. (supplement a pond). I flipped a coin last year for a well or high fence and wish now I had drilled. For an irrigation well, diesel motor and pump to the 'Carrizo' water (much more than 900')... around $120k turn key. The shallow water is almost dry and can pump 6-8 gal a minute max.

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My water holes also look real sick. My main one near the house is 7 ft low and the one acre has now become about .4 acre. It still has about 7 ft of water in the bowl. Still have BG, LMB and CC but spawns just don't have a prayer in a bowl.

My other one acre pond is shallow. It is down about 4 ft with about 18 inches left to go. I doubt that there is much left alive in it. Nothing comes to pellets. It is now about 1/2 acre.

Pondmeistering is impossible under these conditions. I kinda live vicariously thru you guys and keep switching between looking in my rear view mirror and scanning the sky for clouds.


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 Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
Pondmeistering is impossible under these conditions. I kinda live vicariously thru you guys and keep switching between looking in my rear view mirror and scanning the sky for clouds.

We see it a little differently, Dave. We see it more as you breathing life into our projects. Many of the advances we have made have come from your boost. It bums us when it ain't workin' well for you.

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I've not seen this type of filmy stuff before. Maybe Ewest can dig something up for us.....


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Maybe it's oil and with the money from it you can drill a well to china.

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Hi everyone! I would like to introduce myself as ahvatsa's daughter and davatsa's sister. My husband and I moved out near my dad's place 3 years ago to establish local relations. (In reality, dad said we should stick to the old testament ways, in which case my husband owes him 700 days of labor for my hand in marriage). I am obviously new to the posing thing, but with the bar coming up next week, (good luck bro, I KNOW you will do well) I wanted to give it a shot!

Dad (ahvatsa) finally took the “bull by the horns.” The bull being the South Texas Drought and the outcome is a well to show the drought who's boss! The well started pumping on Easter weekend. We ran a 2”PVC line from the hill (where the pump is located) down to the ponds. The main line runs into the LMB pond with a split off to the Crappie Pond. Dad was prepared (or preparing himself) to drill 700+ feet after talking to neighboring well owners. However, around 300’, it was producing 90 gpm! Within a few weeks there was a considerable increase in volume; that made dad VERY happy!


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The water is clean with the high sulfate content being the only slight abnormality. Todd Overton supplied us with a fresh stock of tilapia and threadfin shad in both ponds as well as some Florida LMB.

Since dad’s passing, the feeders haven’t been kept full like usual as we try to figure things out. The fish seem to think they are hungry even though in reality, they have a great habitat (for now). Last weekend, we took a 3 year old fishing for bluegill. We were using a Spider Man rod and reel with a perch hook, worm pieces and small bobber. Within seconds, we had a 3 pound LMB. The next few casts brought up our vast variety of Overton’s Tilapia. In disbelief, and in an hours time, we caught 15 tilapia on night crawlers! The Spider Man reel was singing…

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Tilapia:


The Catfish Pond is still as dry as a bone. However, we have tried to take advantage of the exposed bottom by improving the layout and structure placement.

We plan to keep our pond journey updated here in effort to give back a fraction of what we have taken away form this forum and wonderful family!


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Hi levkatsa,
So very glad to have ya aboard. I knew your post would be special, but my heart skipped a beat when I got to the pic of the big pond. That was the pond that your Dad was working on when I came on board with the PB family. It all clicked and assured me that my good friend Al was surely looking down and smiling.

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We all miss Big Al and are glad to have another stand in. Heck, he is impossible to replace.

I look at new members daily and had a pretty good idea who you were. Your Dad told me that he was very proud of you and Dave.



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levkatsa, it is a great pleasure to have you post and to get to meet you, virtually at least.

If I am correct on identification, you fishing guide looks much happier when not carrying around a log chain.


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Welcome levkatsa!


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I guess you'd be correct! But dad always taught us, you have to put in the work to truly enjoy the benefit! I'd say we all appreciate the great things in life more because of him!

I have had a request to post my name, and while I'm not much in the market for online personal ads, her it goes... "My name is Lisa and I enjoy long walks by ponds (with my husband Jason, of course!). That's Jason with the chain and Spider Man!


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Welcome aboard Lisa!

Needless to say, we are all very saddened at Al's passing.

He means a lot to so many of us.

He had personally told me, many times, about his life, and how proud he was of you and David.


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Lisa,

It's very nice to see those ponds full of water, and it makes me happy to know that you are enjoying the resource.

It was a pleasure to meet you and Jason this spring. I hope you will continue to enjoy these ponds and I will do whatever I can to help you all keep them up to par. Al would be proud of that catch!!

Take care!


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Welcome to posting Lisa. We miss Al a lot but are cheered by the knowledge that his family and ponds will continue to grace our presence. We spent many hours talking about the plans he had both for his ponds and children. I reminded him often of how proud he should be of all of you. His idea that putting in the work leads to good results is proven beyond any doubt by his children and ponds. Of course , by the grace of God, he had good land and children to work with. Good job Lisa on your first posting and on the family and ponds - Al I know you are watching - well done friend , well done indeed.





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