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That's a nice one Esshup. Might be wrong one though.


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Originally Posted By: Jwwann
Holy Cow! Thanks Tums. What did that thing weigh?

That is a 5# GG.

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Dang!


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Will those hogs live in Missouri?


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When you said Bubba Fish, I didn't know if you were talking about Sunfish or Catfish. wink grin


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Oh, so that's bubba the catfish.


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Originally Posted By: matthew
As for 5000/acre, I can believe that. But only if in a monoculture fish farm scenario, as they are not sterile and would reproduce and stunt. they would need to be in a mixed population with predator species, which would then make the stocking rate far too high.

I believe I may be the first one that stocked 5000/acre in the mid 90's. What we did was stock them on April fools day and feed very heavily for 6 months. At that time the GG was large enough that we could stock hundreds of bass in the less than 2# range (small enough that they could not eat the original stocked GG). This allowed us to grow out giant original GG over 3# without over population and not waste feed on later hatches that would not get as large. The large GG also preyed on the bass hatchlings which helped keep them from getting over populated. The pond stayed pretty balanced by allowing people to fish after year 2 keeping all GG under 10" and bass under 14" all the way until year #5. During year number 5 some local kids that had got on drugs (uncle was neighbor so no one caught onto what they where doing) that new of the large bream fed and seined alot of the fish out of the pond. My father and I that normally look after things where out of town for several days in deep sea fishing tourney. They took thousands of fish out and sold them at 25 cents a piece in order to raise money for drugs (according to local authorities). If anyone has any quesion about what I have done with GG along time ago I will feel free to answer them. I however will not be able to speak on the GG that is sold today and or its current quality. I no longer have any (drained the last of those ponds a while back and have not purchased any in years.

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They sound instresting.


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Originally Posted By: Jwwann
Will those hogs live in Missouri?

I am sure they would. First I can not speak for the GG today and how they do. I do know that from my dealings with Ken (before he died) that the ones I had got smaller with each breeding cycle once introduced to your pond. He told me to think of it like this. The ones I got from him where a F1 direct decendant strain. There offspring would be a smaller F2 version and so on. WAY Back then any GG you got from anyone other than Ken at Kens Fish Farm where not going to get as big as his. I went with a plan to grow out some giant F1 GG and it worked well for me in the mid to late 90's. I also think the colder climates probably ould not grow as large a fish either.

BTW you can go to this web site and look at the pictures and you will see the same one i posted.
Kens fish farm

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I see they ship overnight, but no prices.


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Originally Posted By: Jwwann
I see they ship overnight, but no prices.

I have a price list from september as I wanted one to look into their HYTECK SPECK crappie. I just called and had them fax me a price list then.
I just looked and here is the price on that list for the GG.
Size up to 2"
Up to 499 45 cents a piece
500 to 1999 41 cents a piece
2000 to 3499 31 cents a piece
3500 to 9999 30 cents a piece
does not say what the price for shipping is but says a quantity of 500 minimum for truck , UPS or FED EX delivery.

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Thanks Tums.


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I am going to pop some popcorn, could be fun

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I am going to pop some popcorn, could be fun


haha good call!


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Originally Posted By: Bill Duggan
I am going to pop some popcorn, could be fun

Are you saying I will be attacked on here for growing 3# GG's?

BTW before anyone ask for my DATA I lost everthing I own in a house fire just after Y2K. I can only tell you what I remember and know and can not give exact measures and weights. Also as far as I know Ken did not use any of my Data. I am so far out of the norm for a pond owner that it would be useless to the average pond owner.

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Think I better stick with HBG.


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Everyone do your own due diligence by reading on PB before you make any choices. I am not going to repeat several years of acrimony nor watch Bill burn the popcorn. It's your pond do what you want. Forewarned is forearmed.



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Think I better stick with HBG.

I do not blame you there. I acutually went back to just stocking regular CNBG. I put a small fortune into raising 3# GG's. In Dec, 2003 I gave up the idea of raising big fish and started concentrating more on the Oceans for my big fish fix.

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That is one funky looking fish.


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Over the years, there has been much posted and published on the Internet and elsewhere about Georgia Giants. Before purchasing any, do yourself a favor and "Google" Georgia Giants. The words "caveat emptor" show up quite regularly.

Look hard at alternatives, such as coppernose bluegill, hybrid bluegill from reputable sources, or just plain bluegill. All have their place. All will grow.

In my main pond, I regularly pull out 11-12 inch northern strain bluegill.

My other pond is in the early stages of hybrid bluegill that are green sunfish / bluegill offspring. They have their issues, but if you know the issues, they do initially grow fast because they are so vicious, including thier desire for pellets.

I am too far north to get reasonable growth from coppernose bluegill.


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I'll admit to watching this thread most of the day, with mixed feelings.... part morbid curiosity, and an equal part apprehension

I'm not going near the GG issue, but I will take this opportunity to plug my favorite fish, when used in the correct environment!!

These were caught by me this week, nowhere near the size of the ones we caught in the spring, but all well over a pound.






"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Nice fish ! I will copy the pics to the HBG thread. grin
















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I'd forgotten how old this thread was.

In my many years with Pond Boss, I've really valued all the opinions and observations that have been posted. A reasonalbe conclusion almost always results due to the the many postings.

As a last resort, as moderators, we consult with each other many times before any actions are taken. Often, we ask for Bob Lusk's opinion. Sometimes, we go beyond that for the opinions of other experts before we take any actions.

We can all grow big bluegill/sunfish.


(Yes, that is really me. Yes, that bluegill is really from my pond.)

Sometimes they are real. Sometimes they are figments in our minds. Sometimes ....

As said above, caveat emptor.


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Condello technique perfection.. is that a 3" fish smile


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NICE fish Tony!

If I had the time and the pond space, I'd like to see what Female RES/Male Condello BG would look like in a couple years.


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