Pond Boss Forums INTRO Questions & Observations may have new problem

Quick rundown of my situation. I recently stocked my new pond. 9/10 acre pond. finished in Dec 2005. IN Feb 2006 I stocked with 1000 cnbg + 1000 fathead minnows. Havent been seeing to many fish.
So today im the last one to leave the pond and I figure Ill sit for awhile and be real quite and just watch. after 30 min to my surprise a bass swims up to the bank about 10 inches long and has a funny look to it. I freaked out and got on the phone to tell my Dad what I saw and my dad tells me that our nieghbor put 4 rock bass in my pond right before i stocked it. He thought he was doing me a favor I guess. Other than trying my best to fish them out what suggestions do anyone of you hero's have for me . not only am I worried for my bg and fhminners Im also extremely worried these junk fish will spawn . And DEAR LORD I have 100 Tiger bass baby's coming in june. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD PLEASE SOMEONE COME CATCH THESE FISH FOR ME! I know you ppl will give me some great suggestions AND support in this tragic and sorryfull event.. thnx for any advice you can give.

Rock Bass don't seem to thrive, reproduction-wise, acording to most reports from pond owners with them. So they may eat a number of your fingerlings, but they won't take over.

How big were the CNBG? Maybe someone can estimate how many the RB might eat before the CNBG spawn.

I think the FHM population will probably stay ahead of four RB.

How big are the Tiger Bass you're getting supposed to be?

P.S. Don't kill the neighbor - there'd be an inquiry.

The one I saw looked about 8 inches. I really dont care to feed these rock bass with my tigers. Im really worried. My cnbg were mostly like 1 to 2 inches. It was a mix of 80% cnbg and 20%shellcracker. the shell cracker had a 30 to 50 or so that was maybe 3 inches. however after putting them in they seemed to be the ones id find on the bank dead for the first 2 weeks or so. as far as my fh minnows I havent seen them schooling in a couple of weeks however my water has been a lil murky. AND all this time I thought man that wind sure looks like a fish's wake but It cant be my fish they are to tiny. This wake Id been seeing turns out is these bass probably feasting on my fh's. The tiger bass im getting are supposed to be 2 inch. And Im sure to a rock bass they probably taste like a piece of granny's red velvet cheese cake. I might give her a call and see if she still has one of those rotory phones.
hmm.

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Peace be with you

Get some fatheads for bait and fish like hell. Since you know how many are in there you could fish them out. Rock bass really go for minnows. You only need to catch three to halt any potential reproduction.

Considering they are your top of the line predators right now they may not be that hard to catch.

And... I would have a word with your neighbor! ^%&%*# Ask him if he wants to reinburse your expense of putting in a pond and if he ever does that again...

I wouldn't lose a whole lot of sleep over it. If you catch some by fishing, that's great. They might get a couple of your Tigers, but they will grow pretty quickly and be out of reach for predation. They should eat a lot of rock bass offspring so it's not a big deal. Also the rock bass has some fatheads to prey on along wih some bluegills.

I think you will be OK.

Well my buddy brought out his fish finder today
(a crimson colored spinner bait with firetailed chartruse worm hanging off it). 5th cast caught a fat lil 10 inch LMB. It was not the funny looking bass I saw yesterday. Which tells me hes not been truthfull about what he told my dad that he put in there . I plan to see him in the next day or so. I removed the fish. Still do you guys think that im going to have a problem if these fish spawn. Especially since there are now LMB (not just goggleeye looking rock bass). I've done alot of reading and I really wanted nothing but the Tiger bass only. If these LMB spawn first in my pond want it just be to overwhelming for just 100 tiger bass fingerlings to compete with. And to top it off Ill never really be able to look at my fish and tell which are which. Im just the newpondguy. Suddenly its hard to breath.

Thought I'd give you guys an update if anyone is interested. The spotted bass did spawn. eating like crazy. There is some that are a good 6 inches. And when I tell you there are hundreds I do not exagerate. I had a friend who let us net about 60 really nice cnbg between 6" to 8" and seem to really be doing good. The pond is down a good 36". Weve had about 4" of rain in the last 14 weeks. I've noticed beds around the bank and looks like my bg are bedding. Do you guys think these spotted bass minnows will gobble up all my baby bg? I sure hope not. there is lots of cover for them if they can get to it. Anyways been checking the forum out every day sure enjoy reading all of your thoughts and ideas its just a great site. And if yall could "hit a knee" we'd sure appreciate it we desperately need rain.

Forgot to mention I put in 125, 2" tiger bass from American sportfish and I need to tell you guys
something. I believe in selective breeding. From dogs to cows to fish. It matters. These fish I put in imediately hit tadpoles that were HUGE . The size of golfball. sucking the tail down and choking on them and spitting them out and turning around to hittem again. Funniest thing I ever saw
a fish do. Kudos to AMERICAN SPORTFISH. Check them out. Im sure there gonna have to fight for this 1 acrea pond over these hundreds of spotted bass minnows but Im not worried. They seem to be pretty tuff.

newpondguy...it is what it is. Can't change anything now. I hope you read the riot act to your good neighbor. At least the spotted bass will give you some action when the F1s dont bite. If you have plenty of cover the cnbg will definitely survive predation. Dont know much about rock bass, but look too much like green sunfish to suit me. Dont know if they spawn with BG, but the bass should enjoy it. 3ft low...could be a lot worse. I thought you were getting more rain. B'ham looks like has been getting their share. Good luck. Keep us updated.

BM just for you

From:

TEMPO OF HYBRID INVIABILITY IN CENTRARCHID FISHES
(TELEOSTEI: CENTRARCHIDAE)
DANIEL I. BOLNICK AND THOMAS J. NEAR

0 viability in cross between RB( Ambloplites rupestris) and LMB and very little chance of cross between RB and BG or most other lepomis.

Sorry guys i should have clearified. They were spotted bass not rock bass. I personally have caught a few spotted bass and I know I dont read alot about managing them on this forum but im looking forward to seeing if spots can cross with the f1's. Spots have allways been a blast to catch around here and they make for some fine eating. I really dont think it would be to bad of a thing if they cross up what about you guys? But I am concerned with the bg survival there sure are alot of 6" spots cruisin around.

That is a fish of a different story. They are more of a river/resv. fish not found often in ponds. You could add some more adult BG to even the odds.