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Originally Posted by DannyMac
you almost never land the cats on light tackle because they'll drag you into a fish attractor.

Danny, what kind of fish attractors do you use? Many artificial ones are advertised as being much easier on hangups than natural wood, is that what you find?


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My brain isn't working this morning, but pending the results of some PB member who is running tests on Perch food, the new smaller bass pellets may be ideal there. As I recall, they are 44/8 vs the 42/10 (or is it 40/12?) of the Bluegill.

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Originally Posted by lmoore
My brain isn't working this morning, but pending the results of some PB member who is running tests on Perch food, the new smaller bass pellets may be ideal there. As I recall, they are 44/8 vs the 42/10 (or is it 40/12?) of the Bluegill.

The bass food is 44/8

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So the new Bass has half of the fat?

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Sounds like some fish, similar to humans, suffer more from excess carbs than excess fat.


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Originally Posted by Snipe
So the new Bass has half of the fat?

No, I didn't read the label correctly. It is 44 protein, 8 fat. I changed my post.


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Hi Pond Boss Family,

March 1st is the day we consider the start of each season! The last few years have been a wild ride we have all shared. But, despite the insanity in the world, we have grown quite a lot. We are proud to announce the opening of our feed mill in Omaha, NE. The mill will allow us to further improve our feed lines, quality control, shipping times, and customer experience. It will also allow us to fast-track our innovation and evaluation process to ensure the highest quality in the ingredients, formulations, and results in the fish as well as the water. We have an Aqualab with over 24,000 gallons of water under one roof, which has allowed us to perform ongoing trials on such things as palatability, digestibility, growth, and performance over the last two years, which has further strengthened our formulations. We are also excited to have two Optimal test ponds in our backyard this year, one 60-year-old pond and one new pond.

We have appreciated everyone's support and patience as we try to build out a feed company focused on performance and quality instead of changing formulations based on the lowest cost ingredients available at the time of manufacturing. It has been a rollercoaster for all of us, and without all of you supporting Optimal, it would not have been possible.

Now to the topic of this thread. We plan to have both Optimal Bass and Optimal Handthrow back in stock this month! Optimal Bass will continue to be a 9mm pellet. Based on many requests, we have been working on a new formulation we are calling Optimal Bass Junior. We have heard from many of you on sizes of bass feed they would love for us to offer, and curious to hear what the Pond Boss family thinks would be an ideal size for Bass Junior. Let us know your thoughts on a juvenile bass feed, if there is a feed you would like to see, or if you have any additional input that can help us make sure we are getting you what you wish you had!

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Would the Optimal Bass Junior feed bridge the gap between the Bluegill and Bass food size wise? What species of fish would do well eating that food besides bass? HSB? larger BG? YP?


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The mixed lengths helps fill that gap currently, but if enough people prefer a single round pellet in an intermediate size we can certainly make that happen. Our standard bluegill feed will work for pretty much all common pond species.

Over the years I've recieved pretty evenly split feedback on how well the 9mm works in feeders. We sent all of our diets out to texas hunter in the early days, and the 9mm was determined to be the biggest size it could throw without issues. I think that maybe the humidity in some places might cause them to swell a bit and cause jams.

Species large enough to eat the bass feed diets would likely benefit from the higher protein and lower fat levels, so I anticipate they would all do well on it.

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Kudos to Optimal! I'm getting my one bag "Bass" pellets delivered today, only three days from ordering. That's one "supply chain" I'll no longer worry about. In our pond, the "bass" pellets are preferred over the "bluegill" by any fish that's over six inches. My bluegills in excess of ten inches seem to prefer the big "bass throw" pellets. Thank you!


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If a fighting fish gets snagged on any "attractor" it usually stays snagged until it breaks loose...one wrap around and the resistance is too much. Christmas trees to start, replaced with those balls into which you glue pieces of 1/2 " pvc, and added two Mossbacks also. I have pulled out almost all of them for now...they do make interesting sculptures laying around the landscape. I love the water lilies...at the peak of summer they cover about 20% of the pond...and I've never lost a fish even when caught in the middle of the lilies, to be hauled ten feet to clear.


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Thanks, Danny. Maybe I should be careful where I place the fish attractors, don't want constant hangups!


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Well, with seven acres (vs my 1/10th), you can make those big "colonies" of attractors (like Mossback's)...say one colony for bass to hang out and another tighter colony for the little fish...then fish between the attractor colonies.


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And inside the box is also a small bag of "Hearts" (no other labeling), small heart shaped extrusions. Well, they smell super rich, so yeah, fish food! The cat crawled over me for sampling and the dog sat, wagging her tail. These little pellets could be training treats for both animals (start with swatting the cat off...ha ha). I'll be trying them on the fish soon.


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I use the Bass Food for trapping 'coons in addition to feeding the fish. Works great in the DP traps, and also in the live type traps.


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Originally Posted by esshup
I use the Bass Food for trapping 'coons in addition to feeding the fish. Works great in the DP traps, and also in the live type traps.

+ 1 on using fish food in the DP traps, have had better luck with it then anything Ive tried, It occurred to me because of the great lengths they will go to to get to it, their dirty little footprints all over the feeders and chewed off a pvc guard I put in place to direct the feed I got to thinking, I got something for you to dig for food out of, plus it is slightly resistant to moisture seems like.


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Originally Posted by optimalfishfood
The mixed lengths helps fill that gap currently, but if enough people prefer a single round pellet in an intermediate size we can certainly make that happen. Our standard bluegill feed will work for pretty much all common pond species.

Over the years I've recieved pretty evenly split feedback on how well the 9mm works in feeders. We sent all of our diets out to texas hunter in the early days, and the 9mm was determined to be the biggest size it could throw without issues. I think that maybe the humidity in some places might cause them to swell a bit and cause jams.

Species large enough to eat the bass feed diets would likely benefit from the higher protein and lower fat levels, so I anticipate they would all do well on it.
I'm only 1..but my operation would benefit greatly with a smaller version of Bass.

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[/quote]I'm only 1..but my operation would benefit greatly with a smaller version of Bass.[/quote]

Me, too. Just a bit too large now when it gets hot & humid.

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