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#519951 04/25/20 12:39 PM
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I have been stumped locally in finding alum in other than the little 4 pound gardening bags. Does anyone know where I can find 50 pounds or so? I need to clear my very very muddy sediment pond. When it runs over, it muddies the pond below it. It's only about 20,000 gallons, or .062 acre feet. I don't want to kill the healthy minnow population in it. I will mix the alum with quicklime, which I can get.

I don't want to have to buy it in the tiny bags at an unreasonable price.

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Surely you dont need 50lbs?

Here's 50 lbs delivered for $90
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Sulfate-Al2-SO4-3-Minimum-99-pure-50LB-BAG/272649662458?hash=item3f7b2faffa:g:bZcAAOSwL7pa-gej

Here's 20 lbs delivered for $48
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Sulfate-99-PURE-MIN-20-pounds-2-x-10lb-Bags/282587554651?hash=item41cb87e35b:g:jZYAAOSwveNePIdL

Or is it worth your time to drive to Springfield MO?

by quicklime I assume you mean hydrated lime?


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I found a local mom and pop feed and garden store that can get me a 50 pound bag of powdered alum for $20. Getting it later this week. I'll mix 10 pounds of hydrated lime with 20 pounds of alum and try that first. Does that sound like a correct ratio?

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I also have been having a hard time finding Alum locally, so thank you for the EBay links. I ordered a bag immediately.

I think I'll be able to source the Calcium hydroxide locally at hardware stores.

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Originally Posted by John Fitzgerald
I found a local mom and pop feed and garden store that can get me a 50 pound bag of powdered alum for $20. Getting it later this week. I'll mix 10 pounds of hydrated lime with 20 pounds of alum and try that first. Does that sound like a correct ratio?


That's a great price. I might consider driving the 2 hours.

I have seen several remarks that you don't want to mix the lime and alum in the same batch - it can turn to a thick sludge. Spray your alum then follow up with the hydrated lime.


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I need more guidance on that...wouldn't the alum shock the fish too much, changing the pH rapidly, before I could apply the quicklime?

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It will depend on your water - IIRC the higher the alkalinity the better it will buffer the pH drop. re-do your bucket test and monitor the pH change for an idea of how it effects your water. I plan to monitor pH and switch to lime when it drops 1.0 point, then back to alum

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Would someone please post the source mentioned above located in Springfield, Mo.?


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I also have a very muddy sediment pond. Be sure you know why it's muddy! I assumed mine was due to bullhead and pumped it down with a screen on the intake pipe. Once it was low I threw a net 30+ times... Hundreds of crayfish! Not 1 bullhead.
It may be obvious but take a jar, bucket or jug full of water and set it aside. If it settles you have something stirring the bottom.


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