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Saw this on facebook last night happened at a small town reservoir about 10-15 miles from my house.

http://www.thebengilpost.com/fish-supply-truck-ends-gillespie-lake-no-injuries


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You wonder if the insurance policy covers the truck from unintentional flooding? Does it cover the fish that a truck hauler is hauling? It sounds like the HSB still made it OK after all was said and done!

Are HSB an effective controller of threadfin shad, which was the stated reason for the stocking? I thought threadfin shad were hard to control even with LMB which have a bigger gape size?

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The way insurance companies are I would think they would find a way not to pay up, I think the HSB inhabit the same areas that the shad do, maybe more than the LMB do

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Just goes to show how much reporters know nothing about new technology and cutting-edge methodology.

This was the first try at expediting the stocking process.

Just open the tank doors and let the fish swim away.

Zero mortality is the goal.

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So this happened here yesterday:

https://www.facebook.com/gillespiefirede...e=3&theater

http://www.thebengilpost.com/fish-supply-truck-ends-gillespie-lake-no-injuries

The fish truck's brakes failed and off she went into the lake. I'm on the dive rescue team that did the recovery - I wasn't on this call.


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LOL....I just posted about this as well - I'm on the dive rescue team that did the recovery.


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OMG!

I was almost afraid to look after I read: "So this happened here yesterday:"


It was the "here" that scared me. I was afraid it could have been one of our great Pond Boss friends on the Illinois/Missouri border who has needed at least one tow, possibly two, from the pond road at one of our moderator's places in PA, and who had to coast his fish delivery truck downhill one morning from the hilltop motel we were staying at, to a service station that sold diesel fuel.

No names included to protect the ...

Anyway, I was just really glad to see that it wasn't the truck owned by any of of our Pond Boss friends.


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Originally Posted By: dlowrance
LOL....I just posted about this as well - I'm on the dive rescue team that did the recovery.



Did you try and 'pocket' a few HSB for your pond???!!!


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I just saw that there was a second thread about this.

I copied the first comment to this thread, put it here, and erased the other thread.

Originally Posted By: dlowrance
So this happened here yesterday:

https://www.facebook.com/gillespiefirede...e=3&theater

http://www.thebengilpost.com/fish-supply-truck-ends-gillespie-lake-no-injuries

The fish truck's brakes failed and off she went into the lake. I'm on the dive rescue team that did the recovery - I wasn't on this call.



Originally Posted By: dlowrance
So this happened here yesterday:

https://www.facebook.com/gillespiefirede...e=3&theater

http://www.thebengilpost.com/fish-supply-truck-ends-gillespie-lake-no-injuries

The fish truck's brakes failed and off she went into the lake. I'm on the dive rescue team that did the recovery - I wasn't on this call.


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Someone help me on the technical explanations for air brake failure? I have no understanding of these systems but I was told that the systems are set so that it takes active air pressure to hold the brake system away from the rims and a loss of pressure causes the brakes to be applied tightly. This is a safety feature to prevent run away trucks if air pressure system fails.

I understand the loud puffing air noises you hear at the truck stops or rest areas is air being released (mimicking an air loss scenario) which applies the brakes.

How does it work that you lose air pressure and the truck starts rolling into the lake? The article said bystanders hear the air puff and then truck started rolling...?

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NOTE: THIS THREAD HAS BEEN MERGED WITH A NEARLY IDENTICAL THREAD THAT WAS STARTED AT ALMOST THE SAME TIME.

To avoid confusion, I locked the other thread.

YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERRED TO THIS THREAD IF YOU STARTED AT THE OTHER THREAD.

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I think it's still up in the air on the whole 'lost brakes' part....I can tell you it certainly didn't have the brakes locked when it was pulled OUT of the lake.


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Did you all notice that the wind shield wipers were still working as they pulled it from the water? I would have thought the electrical system would be compromised and the batteries be fried.


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dlowrance, Funny thing is that I found out about this from a common freind on facebook. You answered my question of whos truck it was on his post. Well either that or there is another guy that knew that info with your first initial and Lowrance as a last name.


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Originally Posted By: BLUE72CAMARO
dlowrance, Funny thing is that I found out about this from a common freind on facebook. You answered my question of whos truck it was on his post. Well either that or there is another guy that knew that info with your first initial and Lowrance as a last name.


HA - that's me. You must be talking about Mark Short - great guy, he does my deer mounts for me.


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Yep, Mark does all the guys I hunt with deer mounts to. Great guy but there is no such thing as a quick stop by his shop.


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I just happened to call Linda (Logan Hollow co-owner along with her husband Peter) yesterday afternoon to check on my fish order and they were right in the middle of all this. Peter had to use someone's cell phone because his went down with the ship (so to speak).

Despite all this, Linda assured me my fish would be delivered soon.....a little later than originally planned but they would eventually get to our BOWs this spring. Waiting on LMB, BG and HSB for three existing ponds.....supplemental/corrective stocking. Linda told me they have numerous delivery trucks so they will still be up and running.

Best of luck Linda and Peter......I hope to see you soon. BM61

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Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
Someone help me on the technical explanations for air brake failure? I have no understanding of these systems but I was told that the systems are set so that it takes active air pressure to hold the brake system away from the rims and a loss of pressure causes the brakes to be applied tightly. This is a safety feature to prevent run away trucks if air pressure system fails.

I understand the loud puffing air noises you hear at the truck stops or rest areas is air being released (mimicking an air loss scenario) which applies the brakes.

How does it work that you lose air pressure and the truck starts rolling into the lake? The article said bystanders hear the air puff and then truck started rolling...?


Air Park Brakes are spring loaded and require air pressure in order to be disengaged. The truck would have to have air pressure in order to release the brakes and roll if parking brakes are in good working order.

You could also hear the sounds described if someone was to intentionally release the park brake at the ramp so the truck would roll off.

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Hope it was not running as it went in. That will dink a motor. If it was not running and it was pulled out that day it would be fine. Sunk sleds we have running in a hour if they are not running when going under and your quick enough to think to shut her off.


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Yes, air parking brakes are spring set and air release. The driving brakes are air set, spring release. The sound heard at the ramp needs clarification....was it the usual "whoosh", followed by silence, or a continuous sound of air escaping? It might've been an air dryer purging the system, as they do regularly.

If you stop the truck by depressing the brake pedal, and hold the pedal down, the truck shouldn't move. If an air line blows or otherwise compromises the system, you will hear a continuous leak as the pressure decreases. When it falls low enough, the truck will begin to roll if it's on a grade. When it falls below the pressure exerted by the parking brake spring, the parking brake will begin to set. If it's in good condition, it will reach the point where the brake is locked and holding the truck, provided the leak continues to cause the air pressure to decrease.

If the driver got out and didn't set the parking brake, then the truck would be free to roll.The sound described by the witness should have no bearing on making the truck roll, as the parking brake is not set anyway. Something doesn't add up.


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Regarding insurance, intentional acts are excluded, stupidity is not. Although intentional acts are difficult to prove, stupidity is usually a no-brainer (pun intended smile ).


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Ken, I immediately thought of the same someone..........


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Ken, I immediately thought of the same someone..........
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Where is that boy?! Is he intentionally ignoring this thread?

However, I'm really glad I didn't gloat about this driver's unfortunate incident. I went fishing at one of my favorite remote mountain lake yesterday evening with my boat. (No cell service within at least four miles.) I could have ended up in a similar situation last night.

Over the winter, the DNR built a really nice, but very steep concrete ramp and nice wooden dock for launching boats on about an 80 acre lake that is about 20 miles from here. In the past, we had to back into the mud at the edge of the lake and hope for the best.

I had my truck in 2WD when I backed the trailer down to the water to pull the boat out near dark. After getting the boat on the trailer, the rear tires started to spin a little bit as I started to pull the boat and trailer out of the water. As soon as they started to spin a little bit on the corrugated concrete, this thread came into my mind! cry

No problem! Or, so I thought.

I slipped into 4WD LOW. It didn't activate. I slipped it into 4WD high. It didn't activate. I slipped it back into 2WD. I think it got stuck somewhere between 4WD LOW and 4WD HIGH. It didn't want to move. It was like the emergency break was on.

I've had this happen a few times before when I haven't used the 4WD for a few months (the manual recommends activating both HIGH and LOW at least once per month). When this happens, it seems like one axle goes into HIGH and the other axle goes into LOW. If one can't slip, the truck goes nowhere.

So, I made sure the emergency brake was pulled as tight as possible, and I had put cell phone and flashlight on the boat dock. I turned off the truck engine, got out, and put my trailer wheel chocks behind by rear truck tires.

When I got back in and started the engine, it clunked into regular 2WD. smile

I took a chance and put it in 4WD HIGH. No problem. I took another chance, and I put it in 2WD LOW -- and drove out without a problem.

I will say I was a little panicked. As mentioned above, there is no cell phone service for at least four miles out from the lake. The road ends at the lake, and much of the land to the main road (which is also a back road) is public land without homes. I hadn't seen a human in several hours. It was after sundown, and I could hear thunder and see lightning in the distance. The closest house is probably 2-3 miles away. I don't think the teenagers even go this far out of the way to party or do drug deals.

Oh well. At least I didn't get my 15 seconds of fame for sinking my truck and boat.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Ken, I immediately thought of the same someone..........


Is it bad that I saw the title of the post and immediately assumed it was him?


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