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Originally Posted by 4CornersPuddle
I'm only 2 hours from Moab. You may be driving within 3 miles of our home, if you come over on US 160 through Durango and then Colorado 184 from Mancos up to US 491 out west of Dolores.
Give a shout; I'll give you directions.
You could even bring some of those HSB youngsters. Haha.
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Thanks for the invite! Have not decided the route to take yet. Not sure about where the best route is to go over mountains with 22' trailer in tow. Debating on going out of the way north and just use I70 or a more direct route. Coming back from there in a car we used hwy 50 in Colorado to 400 in Kansas. Any suggestions?


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I dive in our pond occasionally to clean off the aeration diffusers. It is no fun, LOL.

Green murk so you can't see past your elbow in the first few feet down, then totally black when on the bottom.
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I'm only 2 hours from Moab. You may be driving within 3 miles of our home, if you come over on US 160 through Durango and then Colorado 184 from Mancos up to US 491 out west of Dolores.
Give a shout; I'll give you directions.
You could even bring some of those HSB youngsters. Haha.
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You might even convince him to go scuba diving in your pond, do a survey of what you have in there.
Love to scuba dive but hadnt done it in a while, did some commercial diving back in the day, worked for a company out of Lafayette LA doing underwater construction and welding on offshore platforms after hurricane Andrew tore a bunch of them up in 93 I believe it was.

I dive in our pond occasionally to clean off the aeration diffusers. It is no fun, LOL.

Green murk so you can't see past your elbow in the first few feet down, then totally black when on the bottom.

Your commercial diving sounds like an interesting occupation.......for a young guy!


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Originally Posted by SetterGuy
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I’m with you on retirement, four wheeling, and dual sport motorcycles. A buddy and I just completed the Idaho and Wyoming BDRs. The plan is to pack in as much fun as we can,, until we can’t.

I am at the farm. The battle with pond scum continues. Bought a big skimming net, but no wind has the slime spread out. Hoping for wind.

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I am impressed! I've been watching a bunch of Youtube videos on the various BDR's. Looks like fun but I'm afraid I'm a bit past my prime for doing such things. I would have to bypass most of the technical sections and I'm just way too inclined to a nice bed at night to camp. But I sure like the idea of doing one, or at least parts of one.


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Originally Posted by snrub
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I am impressed! I've been watching a bunch of Youtube videos on the various BDR's. Looks like fun but I'm afraid I'm a bit past my prime for doing such things. I would have to bypass most of the technical sections and I'm just way too inclined to a nice bed at night to camp. But I sure like the idea of doing one, or at least parts of one.


The Idaho BDR (Backcountry Discovery Route) is rated the second easiest of the 11. The only other one I may try is the Mid Atlantic.
The Idaho one pushed me to my limits. 1400 miles.
Very fun though, and incredibly beautiful. There are lodges along the way, if you don’t want to haul camping gear.
It’s just a lot more fun on two wheels!


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Made progress on cleaning up the back of the dam.
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The middle has had the trees cut down, but not mowed. Too steep for me. Looks like weed eater territory.

Sycamores had taken over. Some were 8” diameter at the base. They grow fast, as the dam is only 8 yrs old. Lots of briars and poison ivy thrown in for good measure. I’m not going to let it get out of control again. The pics don’t show the actual slope very well.


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RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these.
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Good work, SG!

Looks like a nice place for deer to transit now that you have cleaned it up.

Do you own a brushcutter? I have a Husqvarna 345FR just for situations like that. You clip it into a harness so the weight is on your hips, rather than your shoulders and back.

In addition to working on slopes, I use it for small cedars. I used to have to cut several branches before I could reach the cedar trunks with my chainsaw. Now I can just walk in with the brushcutter and get most of them with one swipe.

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Good work, SG!

Looks like a nice place for deer to transit now that you have cleaned it up.

Do you own a brushcutter? I have a Husqvarna 345FR just for situations like that. You clip it into a harness so the weight is on your hips, rather than your shoulders and back.

In addition to working on slopes, I use it for small cedars. I used to have to cut several branches before I could reach the cedar trunks with my chainsaw. Now I can just walk in with the brushcutter and get most of them with one swipe.

Sounds like the right tool for this job. I’ll have to look around for a used one. I have the blade attachment for my weed eater. It’s a heavy duty one with the straight shaft. I haven’t tried it on Russian Olives though. The section I still have to clear isn’t that big, but I sure wish I could just back the tractor with the brush hog on it, down that slope. Just too steep for me. I figure I’ll get down there, and won’t be able to get back up. Another rescue job that will entertain my neighbors for years.


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RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these.
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I would try the blade attachment on your weed eater.

See what size of olive trees you can safely clear without ruining your machine.

Do you ever perform prescribed burns on your property? That is another good way to get rid of small trees, especially up slopes. If you can get rid of the small trees and establish some grass, that may burn hot enough to kill some of the bigger trees?

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I think this might be a tricky place to burn. Not sure though. The back of the dam was all nice fescue eight years ago. If I would have stayed on top of it, it would still be in fescue. The trees shaded out the fescue. I’ll have to get it going again. It’s just near the base of the dam that the fescue died off.

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Don't burn if it is not easy to make your fire breaks!

I agree with the lament of "staying on top of it". I am amazed at how quickly little problems at our property can turn into big problems!

Maybe Al (FireIsHot) can loan you a few goats. grin

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Not sure that I can let this one walk...

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Originally Posted by FishinRod
Don't burn if it is not easy to make your fire breaks!

I agree with the lament of "staying on top of it". I am amazed at how quickly little problems at our property can turn into big problems!

Maybe Al (FireIsHot) can loan you a few goats. grin

If I knew 20 years ago what I know now, I'd never own a weed eater. When weather permits, we take the goats on a daily walk to the areas that need grooming. Right now, they're eating the crab grass and bahia grass out of the hay meadows. Goats are extremely trainable if you keep a pocket with acorns or pecan halves handy. They can also be a royal PITA.


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Love the split brow Rah

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This guy looks interesting too!

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RAH,
You’ve got some nice bucks running around over there. I need to get some cameras out.


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It has been a long time coming, but it's a labor of love (and helps fill the freezer).

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Originally Posted by RAH
It has been a long time coming, but it's a labor of love (and helps fill the freezer).

If you are ever stuck at your computer on a rainy day, I would love to read a detailed post about your long-term improvements at your property to improve your deer habitat and your deer herd management! (I have read snippets in some of the deer threads.)

What went right AND what went wrong would probably be very enlightening. I know some things would be specific to your particular area, but if you stated the reasons why it worked, then the rest of us could probably apply the appropriate tweaks to fit our different conditions.

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No real magic: food, water, cover, and harvesting lots of does. I also have multiple areas of thick cover that we never go into unless tracking a wounded deer or controlling unwanted woody invasives (off season). I hunt the edges only. I have really just tried to favor all wildlife and mostly stick with native plants. There are some more specifics at a FB group page that my daughter set up for me: https://www.facebook.com/groups/442011656723370/ Its pretty rinky-dink though. If you are ever traveling through the Indianapolis area (out of deer season), I would enjoy giving you a tour!

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Don't burn if it is not easy to make your fire breaks!

I agree with the lament of "staying on top of it". I am amazed at how quickly little problems at our property can turn into big problems!

Maybe Al (FireIsHot) can loan you a few goats. grin

If I knew 20 years ago what I know now, I'd never own a weed eater. When weather permits, we take the goats on a daily walk to the areas that need grooming. Right now, they're eating the crab grass and bahia grass out of the hay meadows. Goats are extremely trainable if you keep a pocket with acorns or pecan halves handy. They can also be a royal PITA.


So, I'm guessing you have a weed eater for sale cheap?


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O.K, this wasn't "my" pond, but a customers. This also was yesterday, not today. His pond is stocked with Hybrid Bluegill and some Regular Bluegills, along with other fish. The banks are very steep 3:1 or steeper once you are in the water and he's having a heck of a time getting underwater weeds established in his pond, either due to turtles or crayfish.

SO, he had us get some Lily plants and some American Pondweed and he made some cages from PVC and hardware cloth to cover the plants so the craws/turtles couldn't eat them.

I was in the pond swimming and planting the plants when one of his bluegills latched on to a part of my skin and tried to rip it off. DANG that hurt!! It felt like it was about a 10" fish, and it seemed to grab and twist like a gator rolls when trying to rip off a piece of something to eat. I wasn't bleeding, but DANG that fish had TEETH and it sure hurt!!!!!

EWEST, where is that picture of the RES with red eyes and blood dripping from it's teeth? I had visions of that being the thing that grabbed me, except a BG/HBG and not a RES.


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esshup - My bluegill could use more food as well if you want to take a swim in my pond:) Have you done an analysis to see how nutritious you are? BTW, my son had blood drawn on his nipple and thought it was funny. Never deterred him from swimming.

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Originally Posted by RAH
esshup - My bluegill could use more food as well if you want to take a swim in my pond:) Have you done an analysis to see how nutritious you are? BTW, my son had blood drawn on his nipple and thought it was funny. Never deterred him from swimming.

This guy is feeding them plenty of Optimal too!!!


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Was at the pond today reviewing the scum situation. (It’s as strong as ever). I saw a critter swimming across the other side. Looked like an otter. Swimming along the bank it would dive down and come back up, shake its head, and it would have a fish in its mouth. I just never thought I’d get an otter here. Maybe a muskrat.
I watched it catch and crunch on four or five fish. Got to thinking, this isn’t going to work. I think he’s gone for good. Hopefully. Here’s the tracks where he came in. Can anyone tell if it’s an otter or a muskrat? [Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]


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When I bought some HBG I asked the seller if they would bite swimmers. He said he’d never heard of them biting anyone. Haha! I used to have to wear a shirt to swim. We eliminated as many as we could catch. I can swim without a shirt now, but every now and then I’ll hear a scream.. I don’t think the RES attack like the HBG.


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Muskrats don't eat fish.............. Unfortunately, Otters target the slowest moving fish in the pond first, they are the easiest to catch, and most times they are the biggest fish. Better do what you can to get it out of your pond and persuade it from ever coming back.


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