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Picking up 2,000 on Tuesday morning. Fingers crossed. They come from a few generations of feed trained Walleye, so I hope they stay on the feed after being stocked in the pond.


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Originally Posted by esshup
Picking up 2,000 on Tuesday morning. Fingers crossed. They come from a few generations of feed trained Walleye, so I hope they stay on the feed after being stocked in the pond.

That will be awesome esshup!

Do you have a viable means of determining/observing if the Walleye are taking pellets after they have taken up residence in your pond?

If so, your reports on that experiment would probably generate a lot of interest in the forum.

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Harvested 3 LMB and transported 7 CNBG to the forage pond. Mosquitoes are really bad, hope fish in forage pond will help. Need to fertilize again, greenish tinge.


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Are those 7 CNBG going in as broodstock?

If so, then good luck!

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Mrs. Augie and I have been catching and caging BG. They will be honored guests at my house on taco night this week.

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Originally Posted by FishinRod
Are those 7 CNBG going in as broodstock?

If so, then good luck!

Thanks, Rod. Dr. Swingle at Auburn found that 6 BG was the ideal number to stock a forage pond. Much more, and the adults ate too many of the little guys. I figured 7 was close enough.

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anthropic,

As I recall, your forage pond should be sufficiently fertile for the newly-spawned CNBG.

What forage are you providing for the adults?


(I want to try a similar forage pond with regular BG.)

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You're right, the forage pond is naturally very fertile. Why that is, while the main pond isn't, is a mystery.

I feed AquaMax MVP to the adult BG. Not much at first, since there are so few, but gradually ramp it up as the fry get larger. I'll mix in some smaller feed as the summer goes on.

As for your forage pond, perhaps you should stock some fathead minnows a couple of months ahead of the BG. A few wooden pallets would make good spawning substrate for them. Wish I'd done that last fall, but you can't think of everything.

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Thanks for the update!

I am going to start my forage ponds with FHMs plus whatever complementary minnows are local in my creek.

Unfortunately, I can't get a long enough break from work to go out to the farm and trap minnows.

I will definitely need some help from the Pond Boss crew to identify my creek species!

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Have been harvesting a few LMB just to eat fresh out of the pond then kept some WE to try for some fresh eating as well, have very seldom got to try it. it was excellent, I put them in as fingerlings right at a yr ago, in late March, they are up to right at 15" now and make some really nice fillets. the LMB are biting good, fight hard and lively, as do the WE, BG are feeding at the feeder again but not much activity from the CC, did see a few, havent had time to try and catch any, having too much fun in my few spare minutes to catch LMB.


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I've been trapping BG from my very small spring fed pond into my larger almost 2ac pond.

I have a chunky 3lb bass that has been hanging out under my dock and likes to grab a BG as I drop them into the pond. The first time he did it I thought it was a little bass so i dangled a jig and caught a nice fat bass. He came back a couple days later and since then has been a consistent feeder.

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Originally Posted by nvcdl
I have a chunky 3lb bass that has been hanging out under my dock and likes to grab a BG as I drop them into the pond.

I have read about people on the forum hand-feeding Optimal Bluegill ... I didn't realize I totally had the wrong impression about what that meant! grin

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After work yesterday I fileted 30 7"-10" BG and made a big batch of ceviche. It was a lot of work, but well worth the effort.
We're wrapping up a major infrastructure upgrade at work, and I had the project team out for supper as a small token of gratitude
for a job well done. They have all had shrimp ceviche at the mexcan restaurant, but none of them had ever seen it made from fish.
One of the guys commented how fresh it tasted. I said yep it's fresh alright, two hours ago it was swimming.

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Close friends joined us for some weekend fishing --- and work. We assembled a TH Feeder & deployed it on the main pond, moved, refilled & reprogrammed old feeder on the forage pond, replaced the marine battery on the pontoon boat, washed & refilled hummingbird feeders. A bit of landscaping work as well, azaleas, camellias, and redbuds doing well. My bride fixed a great meal, too. Truth is, we did more work than fishing, but they didn't mind.

Some little BG/CNBG managed to survive in my nearly empty forage pond, but hopefully they won't interfere much with the big CNBG reproduction. Main BOW shoreline full of FA, but I'm happy because the YOY are well sheltered there & TP are only a couple of weeks away. Not seeing a whole lot of southern naiad yet, but it is only a matter of time.

Two nesting geese keeping other geese away. I've only seen a few cormorants this whole winter/spring, none this past weekend. Not sure why, but I'll take it. Kingfishers enjoying life, I don't mind much because they focus on little fish. Scads of small CNBG & LMB.

My buddy was bringing in a 14 incher when he noticed a huge HSB following right behind the struggling fish. Some of those stripers are double digits, I think.


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Originally Posted by anthropic
Some little BG/CNBG managed to survive in my nearly empty forage pond, but hopefully they won't interfere much with the big CNBG reproduction.

The tenacity of living organisms never ceases to amaze me!

I am designing my forage ponds to be capable of being drained completely dry, because I don't trust my ability to manage the pond successfully against a competing pre-existing population that has OTHER goals.

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Yesterday I saw a few of my LMB for the first time this year. One of them was from last year's spawn and looks like he grew more over the winter than I would of thought it would.


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Originally Posted by FishinRod
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Some little BG/CNBG managed to survive in my nearly empty forage pond, but hopefully they won't interfere much with the big CNBG reproduction.

The tenacity of living organisms never ceases to amaze me!

I am designing my forage ponds to be capable of being drained completely dry, because I don't trust my ability to manage the pond successfully against a competing pre-existing population that has OTHER goals.

Mine was designed the same way, but never gets completely dry even during summer droughts. Ground water, I think. No question, life will find a way!

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Update on the Mallard 'tube' !!

I watched the tube closely and no activity. We went on a road trip for spring break for 10 days and had a fair amount of rain when we were gone. We came home and the roll of wire with hay had gotten a bit water logged and had rolled over off the wood 2x4 base and was hanging over the edge. It looked squished and the wooden post was leaning due to the odd weight distribution. I decided it would be better to buy big worm gear clamps and clamp it more securely to the wooden base.

When unfastening the 2x4 from the vertical mount post I jostled the cage and out dropped 3 eggs!! Unfortunately they dropped into deeper water where they were hard to retrieve but I managed to get 2 of the 3 before one was covered with muck and leaves.

(Question, how long can these eggs be submerged before the embryo suffocates? Seconds? Minutes?)

Working some more and carefully feeling inside and found 2 more eggs inside so there were 6 eggs in there!! Amazing! I wonder if when the tube got water logged and rolled over if the nest was abandoned?

Anyway, worked quickly to make the hoop look more like a circle again, relined the bottom with hay so eggs won't fall through the metal mesh, reinstalled the pole and tube and carefully put the eggs back in a depression in the hay in the middle and packed hay around the rear of the tube for 'privacy' again.

Not sure if eggs are viable (they were dunked for about 2-3 minutes) and not sure if momma already abandoned but am very excited that the tube was accepted within a couple weeks time in the first season!

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Not sure if eggs are viable (they were dunked for about 2-3 minutes) and not sure if momma already abandoned but am very excited that the tube was accepted within a couple weeks time in the first season!

Do you have a game camera? It sounds like this project might benefit from a little more info!

Good luck on your ducks!

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Originally Posted by canyoncreek
Update on the Mallard 'tube' !!

I watched the tube closely and no activity. We went on a road trip for spring break for 10 days and had a fair amount of rain when we were gone. We came home and the roll of wire with hay had gotten a bit water logged and had rolled over off the wood 2x4 base and was hanging over the edge. It looked squished and the wooden post was leaning due to the odd weight distribution. I decided it would be better to buy big worm gear clamps and clamp it more securely to the wooden base.

When unfastening the 2x4 from the vertical mount post I jostled the cage and out dropped 3 eggs!! Unfortunately they dropped into deeper water where they were hard to retrieve but I managed to get 2 of the 3 before one was covered with muck and leaves.

(Question, how long can these eggs be submerged before the embryo suffocates? Seconds? Minutes?)

Working some more and carefully feeling inside and found 2 more eggs inside so there were 6 eggs in there!! Amazing! I wonder if when the tube got water logged and rolled over if the nest was abandoned?

Anyway, worked quickly to make the hoop look more like a circle again, relined the bottom with hay so eggs won't fall through the metal mesh, reinstalled the pole and tube and carefully put the eggs back in a depression in the hay in the middle and packed hay around the rear of the tube for 'privacy' again.

Not sure if eggs are viable (they were dunked for about 2-3 minutes) and not sure if momma already abandoned but am very excited that the tube was accepted within a couple weeks time in the first season!
I raised wild waterfowl, Pheasant and Quail for many years.. First, Eggs are porous but have an air sac that acts like a diaphragm..
When eggs are collected, you never rub them to clean if planning to hatch out. dirt/mud/poop fills the pores and THEN you have problems. Mud can be rinsed from eggs, soaked in a 5-6oz dish of water with a tablespoon of clorox to sanitize even, without bothering embryo. They could be under water for 10-15 min and not hurt anything unless covered with mud. They can be rinsed but not wiped clean.

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I caught my 10th Nutria last night. I'm not seeing any more dug up tuber chunks, so I'm at least holding my own. I've got 5 conibears set up on one abandoned beaver hut, and critters just keep coming.


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Originally Posted by Snipe
[quote=canyoncreek]Update on the Mallard 'tube' !!

I watched the tube closely and no activity. We went on a road trip for spring break for 10 days and had a fair amount of rain when we were gone. We came home and the roll of wire with hay had gotten a bit water logged and had rolled over off the wood 2x4 base and was hanging over the edge. It looked squished and the wooden post was leaning due to the odd weight distribution. I decided it would be better to buy big worm gear clamps and clamp it more securely to the wooden base.

When unfastening the 2x4 from the vertical mount post I jostled the cage and out dropped 3 eggs!! Unfortunately they dropped into deeper water where
I raised wild waterfowl, Pheasant and Quail for many years.. First, Eggs are porous but have an air sac that acts like a diaphragm..
When eggs are collected, you never rub them to clean if planning to hatch out. dirt/mud/poop fills the pores and THEN you have problems. Mud can be rinsed from eggs, soaked in a 5-6oz dish of water with a tablespoon of clorox to sanitize even, without bothering embryo. They could be under water for 10-15 min and not hurt anything unless covered with mud. They can be rinsed but not wiped clean.

Thanks for taking the time to explain this! The ones that hit the water were not dirty so was worried more about submerging time but sounds like that didn't hurt them. The others I rescued out of the straw and laid them on the bank of the pond for about 10 min and then all went back in the nest. The one that got under the mud couldn't be found due to water getting cloudy from us wading around in it.

I saw the male early this morning hanging out on the other side of the pond so not sure if the mom went back in the tube to check on the eggs now that the tube is upright and in proper position again. Lets hope! Otherwise, I can remove eggs in a week or so if they are abandoned and maybe we'll get a second batch from another mallard pair yet this season.

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Anybody know what this mushroom-looking thing growing on the pond bottom is?
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Originally Posted by FireIsHot
I caught my 10th Nutria last night. I'm not seeing any more dug up tuber chunks, so I'm at least holding my own. I've got 5 conibears set up on one abandoned beaver hut, and critters just keep coming.

Wow!

Coming soon to Pond Boss ... "Delicious Recipes for Nutria" and "101 Uses for Nutria Pelts"!

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Nothing but big ol' water rats, and my guess is they don't taste like chicken. The one today was a juvenile, so that means more are coming. My place is at the top of the watershed for Lake Fork, and specifically Lake Fork Creek. I'm guessing they're coming up the dry creek bed behind our pond dam looking for food.


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