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Is this a coppernose?
Just a quick question to all you experts. Is this a coppernose or green sunfish? Some of my bream are easy to identify and some I am not so sure. By the way, I was fishing for bass with a RT40 which is a pretty good sized crank bait. This bream weighed 1.6 pounds and was 12 3/4" long.
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7 Acre +/- pond. Stocked with CNBG, RESF, GS, TFS, FHM, in March - June of 2008, Stocked with 200 3" F1 Tiger Bass in March of 2010... Additional stockings of CNBG, Tilapia, FHM in May of 2011.April of 2012 and May of 2013.
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Wow in the picture I had no idea, the measurements you provided are astounding. That's a one in a million fish IMHO.. but yes its CNBG as others stated. IT would have a much bigger mouth among other features if it was a green sunfish.
Get out and fish.
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Jakeb, We catch this size fairly often. I will post pictures of the next one with a tape measure and scale.
When you say one in a million, do I have something here more special then I realize??
After viewing your post, it got me curious so I looked up a relative weight chart on bream and it shows that a bream of this length and that weight is only .88 % relativity. However, it did seem like the belly region was almost deflated like maybe it had just spawned.
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I don't know, I could be all wrong, but if you're not trying to grow large CNBG, in my experience it is very hard to get one over a pound. I am not doubting your measurements at all. It is just quite a feat. And yes in my estimation a 1.6lb CNBG would be more like a one in a billion. (fish have lots of babies). I am pretty sure in Bob Lusk's "Raising Trophy Bass" there is a line that states, I've seen thousands of BG over 1lb, hundreds 1.5. and about 10 over 2lb. That may be different now that he manages Richmond Mill. Anyway If I raised a 1.5lb BG I would be bragging more! And I could just be horrible at growing them 
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Both of you are right. A + 1.5 lb BG/CNBG is rare as a % of all BG. It is more common now (and with the forum/net more communicated)that BG/CNBG are getting heavier. I credit the advances in supplemental feeding and numbers of people doing so for the increase. Bob's book is dated in this respect - after all it is 15 years old. If you ask him now I bet he would say it is more common especially with pellet fed fish.
If you have a pond full of them (as in high % that size) then it is worth examining the how and why of your pond.
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