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Thread on Dlowrance's replica of his big bass
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In the following thread Dlowrance caught a big bass from his pond and released it. He has me doing a replica of it. (One of the thing's I do for a living.) He and I thought it would be cool to chronicle the process of doing the replica.

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=420775&page=1

The way fish replica's typically work is if the original fish is not available, the angler gives me a length and girth and/or weight and I order a blank from a supplier that is as close to the original fish as possible. The suppliers usually have thousands of casts of fish of numerous species and sizes listed to choose from.

Here the box of the cast has arrived:



Here is it pulled out of the peanuts:



Here it is showing the approximate length:


Here it is showing the girth:



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Cecil Baird1 #424218 09/17/15 08:03 PM
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I'm very excited about following this! Thank you.


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Re: Thread on Dlowrance's replica of his big bass
Cecil Baird1 #424219 09/17/15 08:04 PM
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Soon I will show how the pec fins are attached and the pec fin bases modeled in, the whiting out of darker areas, and the blank sealed in clear lacquer sealer. Then the fish will be "antiqued" to prep for applying the colors.

Stay tuned!

Feel free to comment or ask questions as the pictures are posted.

In the mean time here are a few "skin mount" bass I recently did for some customers:


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Re: Thread on Dlowrance's replica of his big bass
Cecil Baird1 #424220 09/17/15 08:06 PM
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Those bass look terrific!


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Cecil Baird1 #424221 09/17/15 08:14 PM
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Just an additional commentary on replicas. I hear anglers on fishing websites comment they look fake, like plastic etc. If the blank is high quality and the painting is good they should be indistinguishable from the real thing.

Here is a musky replica I did a couple of years ago for a musky guide and his client:

Here is the blank before painting:



Here is the blank after painting:





We put the fish back in the box of peanuts the blank was sent in as the guide had to drive it several hours to an outdoor convention. The guy on the left got a free musky replica from the guide for catching and releasing a 50 inch or plus musky from a local lake. The guide paid for the blank, and I did the labor free of charge for advertisement. We don't do it anymore as he got tired of buying the blanks for $300.00, and I got tired of doing them for free with no one wanting to pay $750.00 around here for a musky replica!

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Re: Thread on Dlowrance's replica of his big bass
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Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello
Those bass look terrific!


Thanks. Perhaps a little greener than some regions of the country but pretty much what they look like here.


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Cecil Baird1 #424224 09/17/15 08:40 PM
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Very nice work and and the start of an informative trip through the process.
















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Cecil Baird1 #424234 09/18/15 07:42 AM
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Very cool Cecil. I hope you decide to do a similar thread sometime on a skin mount. smile


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This is a very good thread about preserving a life like replica of your trophy catch or one you would like to catch some day. Yes this is a great educational thread for anglers and pondmeisters.


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WAAYYY Excited!!!


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Update:

Flashing on the fins and body has been trimmed and ground off. Seams and imperfections have been filled in with a two part apoxy known as "Magic Sculpt." This is a product we use in the taxidermy industry to fill in shrinkage on actual skin mounts too. Sets up hard as a rock.

Eyes have been set and the nares have been installed.

Next step will be sanding down the epoxy and putting on a thiner layer in which scales will be pressed in using a silicone mold of actual fish scales.

Also the teeth will be made in the appropriate areas of the mouth using more of the Magic Sculpt and producing the correct texture with a toothbrush.

Then whiting out the epoxy areas, sealing with a lacquer sealer and "antiquing" the scales and other areas to give them a natural detail that shows through the transparent paint.








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Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Very cool Cecil. I hope you decide to do a similar thread sometime on a skin mount. smile


Bill,

This may have been before your time here:

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=124398&page=1


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Very interesting to watch this thread keep up the good work.


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Very informative and excellent job so far. I am learning a lot. Did not know you had to add the scales and teeth. True artistic talent required.


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Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
Very informative and excellent job so far. I am learning a lot. Did not know you had to add the scales and teeth. True artistic talent required.


It depends on the mold. Some you don't have to.

This can be learned. Just average artistic ability needed, a desire to continually improve, and a love of nature. And of course lots of repetition.


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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
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Very informative and excellent job so far. I am learning a lot. Did not know you had to add the scales and teeth. True artistic talent required.


It depends on the mold. Some you don't have to.

This can be learned. Just average artistic ability needed, a desire to continually improve, and a love of nature. And of course lots of repetition.


He is both modest and humble. I agree with the other opinions here, well above average. You deserve every award you have and more.

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Lookin good Cecil! I'm already in negotiations with my interior decorator as to where that beauty will be hung...I'm being told that dead center right over the headboard in the master bedroom may be a non starter....


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Nice work Cecil and thanks for the how to narrative.
















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Originally Posted By: dlowrance
Lookin good Cecil! I'm already in negotiations with my interior decorator as to where that beauty will be hung...I'm being told that dead center right over the headboard in the master bedroom may be a non starter....


Did have a newlywed couple tell me they were going to hang the hubby's deer shoulder mount (back before I specialzed in fish) right above the bed. I made sure the hanger was a good one and told them to use a screw with a big head so it wouldn't fall off the wall!

Sadly I can't tell you how many wives turn to their husband's and say, "You're not going to hang that in my house," if they come in with their husband to pick it up. I've even had some purposely not tell the husband it's ready to pick up. Many mounts get banned to a damp basement, but if the guy is lucky enough to have a man cave his man cave.


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Pretty Cool Cecil!!!

Didn't really know what a replica was until you explained it here. Thanks!!

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Originally Posted By: JKB
Pretty Cool Cecil!!!

Didn't really know what a replica was until you explained it here. Thanks!!


Thanks for the kind words.

Interestingly more and more taxidermists are molding fish too. In fact a lot of my frozen fish sales go to taxidermists and suppliers that are molding fish.

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I couldn't agree more on CMM's calling of Cecil being modest and humble when he says "This can be learned. Just average artistic ability needed".

After having the pleasure of seeing his operation first hand while on our trip:




Cecil took the time to show us around, answer all of our questions and explain the whole process.

And now we all get to see it from start to finish! Thank you Cecil!

There's no question you possess a rare talent!

And just out of curiosity, are there any other fish taxidermists who also raise their own fish????


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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1

Sadly I can't tell you how many wives turn to their husband's and say, "You're not going to hang that in my house," if they come in with their husband to pick it up. I've even had some purposely not tell the husband it's ready to pick up. Many mounts get banned to a damp basement, but if the guy is lucky enough to have a man cave his man cave.


This is a non-issue for me...the majority of my house is definitely decorated in Early American Redneck. The better half and I have an agreement...she doesn't mind the shoulder mounts, fish, outdoor pics, beer signs, etc in the basement (my man cave) and also scattered throughout the main floor, and I don't mind her painting numerous walls colors that are better served decorating an ice cream truck.


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More progress. The painting should be completed today. Lots of distractions including adding on to the house and a customer flying in from Alaska to pick up his 44 inch 40 lb. lake trout (skin mount). Several thousand spots to repaint and make them not look painted. Probably the most difficult fish I paint. And of course delivering tilapia to four high schools and holding their hands on set up. LOL

Anyway here is the fish all whited out over the epoxied areas and then sealed in a lacquer sealer.



Next a dark brown is painted on the scaled areas and fins that have some color to them.


After that the brown is buffed with fine steel wool to take paint off the high areas of the scale to add detail and realism to the blank. In the industry we call this "antiquing." Otherwise even with the right colors the fish would look like some fake plastic fish.



Next I use five minute epoxy and put the pec fins on and fill in the pec fin base with a two part epoxy I use to model in things on fish.


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