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Flame, I also have done the tall or vertical pipe with the garden hose and like u say, I just adjusted the lengths of the hose for the stiffness I desired, but I like the horz pipe better, even though both types will hold fish. And the horz. pipe may look like a lay down, and I like lay downs lol And I might have to try Canyoncreeks idea with the foam into the garden hose. I have some cheap water hose that is weak in it's stiffness and it might help in 2 ways, by trapping air and by the foam, both giving it a possibility to float higher in the water. Hum ! One can of foam is cheap to try and again less haul off to the landfill. All of the above gives me something to do on rainy days. had almost 3" of rain the day before yesterday and it has rained all night and raining now. it's been a wet spring here.
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I threw a couple of structures together this afternoon out of scrap wood and an old water hose I cut into 3' sections. I too hope the pieces of hose lose some of their curvature and stick out straight a little more over time or once they are in the water. I still need to fill the bases with concrete.
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I tried the garden hose it drooped straight down both sides of the 4" conduit. Now it was in full sunlight, but the temps were in the 60s. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and actually spend $ on some stiff plastic tubing to add on.
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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The black plastic irrigation tubing is cheap and easy to work with...Menards/Lowes/Home Depot/etc all carry it in bulk.
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Again no pictures, I never think of taking pictures, maybe because the final stage would not impress anyone. But here is how I did one using garden hose. I used an old deer feeder drum for the base. I think it was a 30 gal size and I then added a 7' 4x4. Cemented the 4x4 vertically in the 30 gal drum. I then screwed 18" potted plant containers to the 4x4 and then added the garden hose by cutting 3' sections of the hose and drilling holes through the potted plant buckets, and running the garden hose through the potted plant containers. Think of the look of a helicopter setting on a helicopter pad and then turn the pad and helicopter on a vertical post, which would put the helicopter blades (garden hose) running vertical. I should have taken pictures lol . All of the material I used was on my place and the only thing I had to buy was 40# bag of cement. And again I did not have to haul off this material to a land fill Tracy
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Walmart around here has 50' of the black PVC hose for $4.98
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I tried the garden hose it drooped straight down both sides of the 4" conduit. Now it was in full sunlight, but the temps were in the 60s. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and actually spend $ on some stiff plastic tubing to add on. The 1/2" and 3/4" black Poly tubing is dirt cheap! Do yourself a favor and also spend the $5-$10 on a PVC tubing razor cutter like this Poly/PVC Cutter Also, expanding foam will make the garden hose float straight up unless you fill the ENTIRE hose to the base and shape the hose while you let the foam set up.
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Finally got these sunk in the pond. I marked them with duck decoys. I placed them at both ends of the three sunken (very large) cedar trees. The five gallon bucket is about half full of concrete. It makes for a tricky launch from a canoe.. Whoa baby!
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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The one in the canoe (pictured in the previous post) was about 5.5' tall. This one was closer to 8' tall. It tipped over when it hit the bottom, the top of the conduit was about a foot below the surface. I had a rope on it, but it pulled loose. So it's laying on it's side. I was going to jump in, swim down and stand it up, but the water was a little too chilly..
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9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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Use a rake or hook to pull it upright.
BTW nice job on creating the structure.
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That sounds a lot better than swimming right now. I should be able to hook it with something. Thx!
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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To keep them from tipping over, put a couple of pieces of pipe or rebar through the bottom of the bucket prior to adding weight.
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Good job. If it were me in the canoe launching them, I likely would be among the launch group.
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I tried the garden hose it drooped straight down both sides of the 4" conduit. Now it was in full sunlight, but the temps were in the 60s. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and actually spend $ on some stiff plastic tubing to add on. The 1/2" and 3/4" black Poly tubing is dirt cheap! Do yourself a favor and also spend the $5-$10 on a PVC tubing razor cutter like this Poly/PVC Cutter Also, expanding foam will make the garden hose float straight up unless you fill the ENTIRE hose to the base and shape the hose while you let the foam set up. Those tubing cutters are great on new pipe, but if a person is using old re-purposed pipe it gets brittle and breaks. My cutting tool of choice for all sizes of plastic tubing for projects like this is a 18 volt battery powered 5" circular saw. Quick and dirty. On larger stuff greater in size than the blade will cut through just rotate the pipe as it is cutting. Probably not an osha approved use of a circular saw but if done with some caution and common sense (which is so uncommon) it works fast and well. Just cut it like you would a 2x4 board. Had not thought of using expanding foam - good idea.
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Good job. If it were me in the canoe launching them, I likely would be among the launch group. It got pretty hairy by the third one. Of course I saved the largest until the end. I thought I had it placed right where I wanted it, but it must have sat on part of one of the sunken cedar trees. If I do this again, I'll put rebar, or something through the bottom, to help stop the tip over. The rebar will go right through the side of my 40 yr old single layer ABS plastic canoe. It's an old "whitewater" the outfit that made them in the 70s went out if business shortly after that. They were also in the football helmet business. Lawsuits put them under., (I heard that from my BIL, could be bad info.) Jeff
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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Nice looking tree! tie a jug on the top before sinking to keep it upright all the time.
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