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Just finished this fish for a client. (For those of you that don't know I'm a fish taxidermist).  Here it is just after being caught.  My guess is definitely bluegill genes present, but the upturned ear tab hints at some longear sunfish genes? There are longear sunfish in the lake (Lake Wawasee, Indiana). The fish was quite large at 11 inches. O.K. what do you guys and gals think?
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The cheek mottling speaks to me of a possible RES influence?
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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The cheek mottling speaks to me of a possible RES influence? Could be as there are definitely redears in the lake. Do you find the upturned ear tab curious or not?
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I think it's a little unusual, but I've seen fish display that characteristic before, so I may not be giving it enough consideration due to familiarity.
I know I've seen several BG x RES hybrids come out of those northern lakes over the past few winters. Far more than during the summer, but it may just be due to more guys posting photos at that time of year.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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I think it's a little unusual, but I've seen fish display that characteristic before, so I may not be giving it enough consideration due to familiarity.
I know I've seen several BG x RES hybrids come out of those northern lakes over the past few winters. Far more than during the summer, but it may just be due to more guys posting photos at that time of year. It was caught through the ice in March or April.
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That is a beautiful mount, Cecil!
Very impressive work!
Keith - Still Lovin Livin https://youtu.be/o-R41Rfx0k0(a short video tribute to the PB members we met on our 5 week fishing adventure) Formerly: 2ac LMB,HSB,BG,HBG,RES
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I agree with CB1 the fish appears to have longear sunfish influence. RES genes would make it look more like the typical RESXBG hybrid. Great, well done mount A++++ - detailing is excellent. It is no wonder your work wins taxidermy competitions.
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I didn't think to take a picture but I caught a PS/BG hybrid today. Roughly 6" long.
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looks like it could be a redear/longear hybrid. The large side fin and dorsil fin looks like a redear, and the long ear tab from a longear. Excellent mount... it looks better mounted than it did alive.
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If it was a human, I wouldn't think of it as a hybrid.
I look at my many cousins. Our eyes aren't all the same color. Some of us burn in the sun. Some of us darken in the sun. A few have big ears. A few have big mouths.
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If it was a human, I wouldn't think of it as a hybrid.
I look at my many cousins. Our eyes aren't all the same color. Some of us burn in the sun. Some of us darken in the sun. A few have big ears. A few have big mouths. I think you're kidding, but just in case you're not, we're all the same species Ken. A longear and a bluegill are a different species.
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I'm thinking BGxGSF but who can really say for sure.
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Travis,
So you don't think the ear tab that is turned sharply up at an angle isn't something that is indicative of a longear?
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Longears from some drainages do show a pronounced upturned operculum flap, other drainages they don't. I sometimes see this in bluegills, especially in large males too though.
I am not saying it is anything for sure. I really don't know. The picture is a bit small and hard to zoom in on without pixelation.
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See this http://web1.cnre.vt.edu/efish/families/hybrid.htmlhybrid RBS X GB Larger mouth and slightly V-ed tail, yellow spots.
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I've never seen, or heard of a RBS coming out of Indiana's waters, but that doesn't mean they're not here. Surely must be pretty rare, though.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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Unless someone imported them, highly unlikely. The only state to stock RBS outside their native eastern US range is Texas.
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