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#339753 06/17/13 04:58 PM
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I am sure it varies based on tree species but does anyone have an idea how long it will be before flooded trees start falling over? So far most of them look to be alive and kicking.

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You answered your own question...it depends on the specie.

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Can you be specific in your question ? We are not getting what you asked about.


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Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
I am sure it varies based on tree species but does anyone have an idea how long it will be before flooded trees start falling over? So far most of them look to be alive and kicking.


Can you post pictures? I love the look of flooded timber!
I've even looked into bald cypress trees that grow in water.



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Jake, some trees last darn near forever.


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Or become roosting spots for massive flocks of birds who poop massive amounts of nutrients into your pond.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Or become roosting spots for massive flocks of birds who poop massive amounts of nutrients into your pond.


Come on esshup..lol..isnt that a "massive" worst possible case scenario?


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Mark, remember this?



I did not have the heart to discourage them because of the drought that year.


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Wow Brian how often is it like that? I've got a friend near Gainesville that has flooded timber in his 7 acre pond and he's never had a problem.


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Birds have killed the trees on the islands of Lake Texoma in a matter of only a couple of years.

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Originally Posted By: jludwig
Birds have killed the trees on the islands of Lake Texoma in a matter of only a couple of years.


why is it they kill trees on an
island but not trees on the banks?


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Mark, that was during the drought two years ago. We did not have any last year but we have had some starting to show up this year as a lot of ponds around us are drying up again. Side note my neighbor across the street had a pond that is down 15 feet. Another has a small pond that filled up earlier this year, but it too is shrinking fast. Man we need some good rains.


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Zep, those are the flocks of birds that I was talking about. Highflyer, I'm suprised your neighbors pond didn't fill up more this Spring with the rains that you had (or should I say that I thought you had).


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esshup..I know I am in the minority, but I like flooded timber..and I like lots of trees right along the shore too..I grew up with it...I think it's beautiful. IMO Brian's video is an extreme worst case example. No hard feelings but I guess it's a 2EachHisOwn.


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I like it too, but I'm just painting the flip side of the coin so the pond owner knows both sides of the story. That way he can make a decision knowing the best and worst of the situation.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
I like it too

You do?

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I'm just painting the flip side of the coin so the pond owner knows both sides of the story. That way he can make a decision knowing the best and worst of the situation.

Don't worry I know he'll get plenty of doom and gloom about flooded timber...lol. Plus I guess it's obvious this guy wants the timber gone from his water anyway so it's a mute point.

I wonder how much timber he has in his pond? You would think rather than waiting for trees to fall over, if he's that anxious maybe he could use a chainsaw to cut them down?


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Zep, those are the flocks of birds that I was talking about. Highflyer, I'm suprised your neighbors pond didn't fill up more this Spring with the rains that you had (or should I say that I thought you had).


Scott, we've had a fair amount of rain, but it's been coming 1/2" to 1" at a time. Dave calls it a farmer's rain. I've only had one day this year where the 2 pipes that dump my watershed even had water flowing through them.


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I haven't had overflow in years.


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Zep:

None of the lakes around here have any flooded timber - they are too old. I have good memories of fishing around stumps that were in the lake, cut off just about flush with the water. Drop a nightcrawler on the shady side and you'd usually catch a LMB. I've fished flooded timber down South, in some larger lakes, and the experience was almost as good.


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Dead trees in Lake Fork at one time were called "widow-makers".



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They are that on land as well. Bump in to them or a gust of wind and the top can come out and make yours a widow.
















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Eric we have a huge tree that is hollowed out with a giant bee nest. I assume the wind will eventually knock it over as it continues to be hollowed out. It's in an isolated area so we will probably just let nature take it's course.


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The whole north end of my larger pond is filled with flooded (dead)timber...I didn't really plan that, but when the 7 acre pond fills up in 48 hours it's sort of hard to mitigate.

I've been slowly dropping the larger trees as I can - I keep hoping for a good freeze so I can drop them from 'solid ground' rather than from a boat, but that has yet to happen.

The trees in my pond died all within a couple of months of the pond filling. No more than 6 months for sure.


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Originally Posted By: dlowrance
The trees in my pond died all within a couple of months of the pond filling. No more than 6 months for sure.


dlowrance...just curious was most of that six months in the dead of winter when your pond iced-over? it seems like at Lake Fork in Texas which was full of flooded trees many of them stayed alive longer than six months. In Caddo Lake the Cypress trees actually grow and thrive in the water.





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It depends on the type of tree and how much of its roots stay under water.
















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