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Originally Posted By: catmandoo
Like ponds, woodlands require a lot of culling and management to keep them viable.


Ken, well said. A lot of people don't realize that.


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R&R I started planting trees bought from the state nurseries in the late 70's. Most of my pond and farm friends were then planting Autumn Olive for the birds. I planted 200 on the outside of a mature woods I live in, and 100 Norway Spruce inside the woods. Over the years the Autumn Olive all died out and only 2 Blue Spruce survived and were stunted. I transplanted them about 10 years ago in an open area and they are growing just fine. I planted White Pine at the front of my property as a screening, maybe 8 or 10 feet apart in the 70's and now they look terrible as they are very tall, thinning and look scraggy. I'm not a fan of White Pine planted close together. I have observed that White Pine and Norway Spruce planted 20 feet apart seem to do much better for me. Also the dreaded Saw Fly larva was a problem for the pines. My big plantings were in my pond area where I made a woods from scratch. I’m just doing filling in plantings now so I will get what I need at Walmart since I don’t want the states White Pine. Thanks for offering to help.
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esshup, If I get any I'll definately give you a call. Sounds like you could set "Anywhere" on my property and be "In Range"

Catmandoo, Agreed 100%

Dono, Good choices on the trees.

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Originally Posted By: Jwwann
Do you have a link to that YouTube video?


took me a few, but I found it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEm42QS0N8c

search tree planting machine and it will pull up several.

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No funding from the state, but I did get support from the NRCS/DOA under an EPIC contract. Nice deal.

The farm is in north-east Washington County near the Bluegrass Parkway, so not too far from Lexington.

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I bought them mostly from the KY and MO State Nurseries. I bought enough that I got a good discount, which I used to step up to 2-year trees where available. So the trees ranged from a few inches (little Roughleaf Dogwoods) to 3 feet (2-year Oaks).

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If planting 1-2 year old trees the old fashioned way (by hand with a shovel) does anybody have a recommendation of what kind of shovel or is something else better? Some of these hardwood trees are up to 1" dia.

I also have 200 Arborvitae trees to plant this coming week that are 24"-30" tall (roots not included).


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Do you have a link to that YouTube video?


took me a few, but I found it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEm42QS0N8c

search tree planting machine and it will pull up several.

You can plant a future forest quick with that thing.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
If planting 1-2 year old trees the old fashioned way (by hand with a shovel) does anybody have a recommendation of what kind of shovel or is something else better? Some of these hardwood trees are up to 1" dia.

I also have 200 Arborvitae trees to plant this coming week that are 24"-30" tall (roots not included).

If you have nice soft ground a rock bar works great. Planted many seedlings with mine.


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Scott, I borrowed Brian's dibble bar, and it was a breeze to plant trees. I'm not sure how it would work for 2-3' tall trees, but if the roots are confined and straight, it may be worth a shot.

I planted 50 Loblolly Pines up to 2' tall almost as fast as I could walk.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
If planting 1-2 year old trees the old fashioned way (by hand with a shovel) does anybody have a recommendation of what kind of shovel or is something else better? Some of these hardwood trees are up to 1" dia.

I also have 200 Arborvitae trees to plant this coming week that are 24"-30" tall (roots not included).


When I do larger trees we use our ice auger for ice fishing. A post hole auger one or two man would do the trick too.

I like to drill the hole deeper then needed to break up the hard pan. Mix in bonemeal with the dirt that came out of the hole as I fill it back in. Four man operation one drilling holes, one filling holes, one placing tree, one dumping a pail of water on. Do about 10 have a beer and so on. Six of us did 100 potted Blue spruce this way did not loose one. Never watered them again that season.

These are the ones I have tree spaded around my new pond. Biggest is now 16 feet an moved them with a 70" spade. Planted a row behind my shop on the north side. Never thought they would get so be so fast and had to move them from the shop. If I left them five more years they would have to be fire wood.

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Thanks guys. Got all those things mentioned. We'll see how it goes. Sandy soil, one man crew. Living fence and living windbreak. 690 feet......


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esshup, Good fences make good neighbors???? wink


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I agree! Metal fence would have to be slightly more than 1,000 feet long, thru the woods and property should be surveyed before placing it. There is a 300' long fence in place already, it just needs to be extended. The trees will be a visual blocking fence in a couple of years. I'm not 100% sure that the existing fence is on my property or not. Nobody within a mile of me on my side of the street has had their property surveyed that I know of within the past 25 years.


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I had my land surveyed and the US forest service was claiming over 100 feet of my land.


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That was considerate of them!


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