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I seeded around my pond last year and now I'm getting a considerable amount of clover (white) starting to show up and looks as if it is spreading. It is good for the areas that are heavy clay and where the rye grass has struggled. However I don't want it to overtake the rye grass.
How do I go about eliminating it and without harming my original grass?
As always, thanks for the help!
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Broadleaf only herbicide, like Remedy, will eliminate the clover and leave your rye grass. Check out Tractor Supply Company online (agriculture/chemicals/weedkillers)
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Why do you want to? Rye is usually an annual. I've planted perenial rye. The 2nd year I got about 60% of it back. Each succeeding year it diminished.
The clover might be able to be permanent.
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It is perennial rye grass and some of it was planted in the fall of 2010, so it could be consider the second year for it and haven't had any issues with it coming up. I used it because it was cheap!
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In Texas rye of any kind is expensive when compared to wheat and oats. Hope it works better for you that it did for me.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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I'm guessing that your weather and mine are pretty similar. Perennial rye just doesn't do well here. We are much better off with a mix of fescues and bluegrass.
Annual rye is great for holding the soil in place during new plantings.
There really is nothing wrong with white clover. It will improve your soil by adding nitrogen to it. If you overplant the clover in the fall, or early next spring, with fescues or bluegrasses, the clover will have improved the soil to the point where the new grasses can get a good start.
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Usually it is the other way around, with grasses out competing the clover...
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If you plan on fertilizing the area, a heavy N, low pH, and early application date will favor the grasses; Heavy P,K, higher pH (lime) and a later application will favor the clover but you need to consider runoff and how that may affect your pond. Also, some of the clover that you are seeing may be from last year's seeding as clover is a "hard seed" and germinates over several years rather than all in one season.
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In my poor sandy, dry soil, the dutch clover is overtaking any grass that was planted....
Trimec will also whack back the clover.
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Thanks for the information guys. For now I'll leave it alone. Certain areas could use it.
Last edited by Bossone; 06/07/12 09:21 PM.
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