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I looked up the County Soil Survey and it came back with this type of soil in my pond area. Anyone have any yays or nays on good or bad?


VccD3—Vertrees-Haggatt-Caneyville complex, karst, hilly,
severely eroded
Setting
Landform: Sinkholes on hills underlain with Mississippian limestone bedrock (fig. 7)
Position on landform: Backslopes and shoulders
Map Unit Composition
35 percent Vertrees and similar soils
25 percent Haggatt and similar soils
20 percent Caneyville and similar soils
15 percent Haggatt, eroded and similar soils on backslopes and shoulders
5 percent frequently ponded Haymond, depression and similar soils on toeslopes of
sinkholes
Interpretive Groups
Land capability classification: 6e
Prime farmland: Not prime farmland

Properties and Qualities of the Vertrees Soil
Parent material: Thin loess and the underlying clayey residuum over Mississippian
limestone bedrock
Drainage class: Well drained

Permeability range to a depth of 40 inches: Moderately slow or moderate
Permeability range below a depth of 40 inches: Moderately slow
Depth to restrictive feature: 60 to 120 inches to lithic bedrock
Available water capacity: About 7.0 inches to a depth of 60 inches
Organic matter content of surface layer: 0.5 to 2.0 percent
Shrink-swell potential: High
Seasonal high water table: None
Ponding: None
Flooding: None
Hydric soil: No
Accelerated erosion: Surface layer is mostly subsoil material
Potential frost action: Moderate
Corrosivity: High for steel and moderate for concrete
Potential for surface runoff: High
Water erosion susceptibility: High
Wind erosion susceptibility: Slight

Properties and Qualities of the Haggatt Soil
Parent material: Thin loess and the underlying clayey residuum over Mississippian
limestone bedrock
Drainage class: Well drained
Permeability range to a depth of 40 inches: Moderate
Permeability range below a depth of 40 inches: Moderately slow to rapid
Depth to restrictive feature: 40 to 60 inches to lithic bedrock
Available water capacity: About 5.7 inches to a depth of 60 inches
Organic matter content of surface layer: 0.5 to 2.0 percent
Shrink-swell potential: High
Seasonal high water table: None
Ponding: None
Flooding: None
Hydric soil: No
Accelerated erosion: Surface layer is mostly subsoil material
Potential frost action: Moderate
Corrosivity: High for steel and moderate for concrete
Potential for surface runoff: Medium
Water erosion susceptibility: High
Wind erosion susceptibility: Slight

Properties and Qualities of the Caneyville Soil
Parent material: Thin loess and the underlying clayey residuum over Mississippian
limestone bedrock
Drainage class: Well drained
Permeability range to a depth of 40 inches: Moderately slow to rapid
Permeability range below a depth of 40 inches: Moderately slow to rapid
Depth to restrictive feature: 20 to 40 inches to lithic bedrock
Available water capacity: About 4.3 inches to a depth of 60 inches
Organic matter content of surface layer: 0.5 to 2.0 percent
Shrink-swell potential: High
Seasonal high water table: None
Ponding: None
Flooding: None
Hydric soil: No
Accelerated erosion: Surface layer is mostly subsoil material
Potential frost action: Moderate
Soil Survey of Harrison County, Indiana
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Corrosivity: High for steel and moderate for concrete
Potential for surface runoff: High
Water erosion susceptibility: High
Wind erosion susceptibility: Slight

Also, some pics of the area I plan on attempting to get to hold water lol









I will post some more pics from the ground as I am heading out there tomorrow to meet some contractors.

Hope someone already chimed on you about the site you're venturing into. I would say nay. Bad investment. County did a survey indicating there is a high probability of high wind and soil erosions, and run-off issues. This is a massive flag that will create more grief than smiles. Unless you dig your pond about 30ft deep to prevent the overflow around the areas picking up your fishes and flow off with them, best not.

You also have soil types that will leech the ponding water quite fast, saturating throughout the biomass through transpiration, but your area has minimal evaporation.

Sinkholes is my concern. Saturation of soil will cause local sinkholes to reveal themselves, which is a major hazard.

Aerial photos look nice, but pictures can be deceptive. Think it out nice and hard. The only way to make the pond possible is to use the thick liners designed for the landfill to line the bottom of the pond. That's the only way to prevent leeching. Then follow up with minimal depth of 20 feet to prevent your investment loss because you have flooding and erosion issues.

Thanks for the insight Leo!