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Re: How many egg ribbons (YP) are you seeing?
Bill Cody #211655 04/06/10 07:58 AM
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We're in contact with a Nebraska state hatchery, in the north-central part of the state. They got their first egg ribbon of the year in a hatchery pond yesterday.


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Re: How many egg ribbons (YP) are you seeing?
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Bill, I have basically no cover and no spawning subtrate but an 8'x10' patch of cattails (which are completely covered toad eggs at the moment). I only stocked 3 adult perch a few years ago and 1 died. I had hundreds of 2-4" babies die and trapped several last year (posted photos before). This week I'm seeing 3"-4" following my bass spinnerbaits in to shore. The blades are as big as the perch. Plenty of LMB, HSB, a couple SMB, and a few CC present.




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De nada here as yet, although the females seem to be getting more gravid. This would be the first year mine are big enough to spawn (if they make it).


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You guys know bout my accident. Not that ya gave a poop. My electric chair I go to the pond in neds a bat. I got it covered. Takes time. I dieing to see some perch strands. lol


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I'm now concerned enough to move egg strands from the big pond to the production pond whether they are fertilized or not. (Virtually no males or literally no males in the big pond). After all if I don't get fertilized egg strands in the production pond, I have to wait a whole year to do it again. Still only one egg strand retrieved from broodstock pond even though there are 20 gravid females and 200 males in that pond! Must have moved them too late and stressed them. \:\(

However I'm getting 3 to 5 new egg strands in the big pond every morning. What can I say? As soon as I think I've got things figured out the fish refuse to read the book.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






Re: How many egg ribbons (YP) are you seeing?
Cecil Baird1 #211935 04/07/10 06:00 PM
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Cecil:

Could you catch a fish out of the brood stock pond and see how they're progressing? % wise, you should catch a male and not a female... Your luck wise, you'll catch a gravid female.

Got any pics of BG fishing?


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Re: How many egg ribbons (YP) are you seeing?
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Still nothing happening up here! I measured the water temps last evening at it was
55.7 deg.F. I still see a couple of fat females swimming around, but no egg ribbons yet. Things have cooled off weather wise with a fair bit of rain this week. Maybe this will slow things up some?

Lots of small RES and small LMB swimming around in the shallows


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Rattletrap2 #212431 04/11/10 09:34 PM
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I found a big ribbon running through a Christmas tree near shore. Hopefully that means there are more that I cannot see.


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Saw the first one yesterday! Small, but none the less it was there!
Water temps have dropped back to 52.1 degrees, but lots of sunshine and a bit of rain. Hope to see more this week. The ones we do have are real shallow in some grass.


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Found a second strand today on the same tree


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 Originally Posted By: esshup
Cecil:

Could you catch a fish out of the brood stock pond and see how they're progressing? % wise, you should catch a male and not a female... Your luck wise, you'll catch a gravid female.

Got any pics of BG fishing?


Did that. Most have dropped their eggs especially the big perch up to almost 14 inche, but what's interesting is the smaller females seem to be reabsorbing their eggs for some reason. That may be where I screwed up. I planted mostly smaller female perch and even though they seemed to have some good egg mass. Perhaps they reabsorbed their eggs?

I have moved two egg ribbons out of the broodstock pond to the production pond that should be fertile. Hopefully I can get a couple more and I will be fine. I'm still getting four or five monster size egg ribbons in the big pond. I'm moving them to the production pond just in case they are fertile.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






Re: How many egg ribbons (YP) are you seeing?
Cecil Baird1 #214930 04/29/10 08:53 PM
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Update: I set up a light on the pier and to see if I have any perch as perch fry are "phototactic" which means they are attracted to light. Turns out I do. Can't tell how many at this point but I am seeing some fry in the 4 to 5 mm range. Lots of zooplankton too. As long as I have a few thousand perch I will be happy.

I was having my doubts this year! The good Lord cut me a break this even though I tried my best to screw it up!

Coach,

If you're reading this, maybe you should give a light a try. I was told by my previous perch producer even a flashlight will do to do a check if one waits patiently on the pier with the light directed into the water. If there's no perch you can always wait for a snipe! Just dont' forget the paper bag! grin

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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






Re: How many egg ribbons (YP) are you seeing?
Cecil Baird1 #214989 04/30/10 09:10 AM
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It appears that the yellow perch in northern South Dakota are just finishing their spawn this week. One of my students collected some adult fish and spawned some fertile egg masses on Wednesday, with help from our local state agency biologists. We are also trawling about 8 lakes with a fine-mesh net, and caught just a few, very tiny perch larvae in a couple of our southern SD lakes this week. Thought that these might be reference points for a few of our interested "perch" folks here on the Forum.

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Re: How many egg ribbons (YP) are you seeing?
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That's interesting Dave. Thanks for sharing that.

I'm considering manually spawning some perch next year using the "dry method." Along with insuring I have fertilized eggs, if I use a human chorionic gonadotropin injection I can insure they all hatch at the same time which is important. If anything I can say I tried it. grin

Of course that depends on the red tape and if its cost effective.

Hopefully I wouldn't have as much trouble getting the hormone as I do fertilizer. shocked grin

BTW is this hormone from humans or something? Maybe cadavers? shocked


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Cecil Baird1 #215012 04/30/10 12:18 PM
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Good question on the HCG, Cecil. I didn't know, and you made me curious. I checked online and if we can trust what I found.... smile

Like other gonadotropins, hCG can be extracted from urine or by genetic modification. Pregnyl, Follutein, Profasi, and Novarel use the former method, derived from the urine of pregnant women. Ovidrel, on the other hand, is a product of recombinant DNA.

Even back to the earliest days of me being in the fisheries profession, we were using HCG. My first exposure came in ND, where they used it to ripen the green female walleyes for spawning. That was back in the mid-70s.


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Re: How many egg ribbons (YP) are you seeing?
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I went out tonight and had perch fry at the dock within five minutes with my flash light. A couple dozen were visible, which I didnt think was bad considering the short amount of time I was out there and the small light I had


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One of the best days of my life. I found three strands of perch eggs on trees that I sunk. I pulled 4 out of the 12 I have sunk and three had eggs on them. I can hardly contain my excitement.


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I have something on my trees as well that look like egg ribbons?? But I know I don't have any perch? Could it be some other type of fish other than perch???? Do you have a picture of what they look like? Mine were at the tips of the branches and white in color all in strands of about 8 to 10 inches.


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Originally Posted By: blair5002
One of the best days of my life. I found three strands of perch eggs on trees that I sunk. I pulled 4 out of the 12 I have sunk and three had eggs on them. I can hardly contain my excitement.


Congratulations! You're the proud father of thousands of perch fry! Should I send you a box of cigars? grin

I'm happy I have some perch coming under the light but not many. Hopefully there are more than I'm not seeing.

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Originally Posted By: RC51
I have something on my trees as well that look like egg ribbons?? But I know I don't have any perch? Could it be some other type of fish other than perch???? Do you have a picture of what they look like? Mine were at the tips of the branches and white in color all in strands of about 8 to 10 inches.


Perch ribbons are several feet long and look like wet toilet paper in the pond. Also its doubtful you have perch ribbons because they would have spawned in Arkansas over a month ago.

If your ribbons are black they are probably toad egg ribbons, they would be everywhere by now down there


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No they are white and look like toilet paper, but not real long. I don't know what they are?? If they are still there I will take a pic the next time I am out there.


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Originally Posted By: RC51
No they are white and look like toilet paper, but not real long. I don't know what they are?? If they are still there I will take a pic the next time I am out there.


Where does you septic tank go? grin


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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Funny Cecil but it can't be that yet as I don't have one out there at all. NO Septic!!! smile


The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!
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Originally Posted By: RC51
Funny Cecil but it can't be that yet as I don't have one out there at all. NO Septic!!! smile


So you just run it right into the pond? shocked grin


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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Dang it man! I shutup now!! smile smile


The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!
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