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If it makes you feel better every qualifying fish hasn't made it's way into the magazine in the past. For example in 2007, I caught a 21.5 inch smallmouth from lake Erie (region 5) and had it registered.



I received my snazzy badge, species tag and letter in the mail. I too was excited and thought my fish and/or name was going to appear in the magazine. But, it turns out only a certain amount of the smallmouth entries were printed for each region that year. I missed being in the magazine by 1/8 of an inch. So, even in the past, there was no guarantee of making it in the magazine just because you entered a qualifying fish. However, I did get my name and fish printed on the "Full List" via the on-line PDF. That's where I found out I missed making it into the magazine by an 1/8 of an inch. Damn, who measures a bass at 21.625 inches??? I'll tell you who: Ed Porowski

What region did your fish belong to? I know you said you caught them in Northwest Ontario. If its region 4, you had a good "chance" of making it in there in'08 had they not "run out" of editorial space(stating the obvious). Even, some 41 inchers made it in '07 from region 4. But, you never know. To get a pic printed now that is very difficult. All of the pike pics (region 4) from '07 contained fish that were over 47 inches. Now, if your pike were caught in region 5 you would think they would be listed in the mag (i.e. 45"-44" is huge for that region) but, in '07 they didn't list a single pike for region 5 in the mag (only online). Imagine that, having the largest fish for a particular species and region and not getting in the mag!

Turns out, '08 wasn’t the first year IFM had a "shortage" of editorial space. By the way, regardless of where you caught your fish, those are some big gals, congrats and I think you deserved to at least get your name in the mag.

Anyway, this past fall my buddy Bri caught a 42 inch King Salmon (region 5) and I took a beautiful pic of it. He entered it and got his "credentials" in the mail. The largest King in'07 from region 5 was 41.5 inches. So needless to say, I thought he was going to have a "full spread". It didn't happen. He didn't even get mentioned in the mag. I think a bunch of "pig" Kings were caught and registered this year in region 5 (I don't have my mag with me right now to reference but i think that was a reason). Not to mention, they only had the "Highlights" printed. Well I don't know about you but a 42" king salmon is certainly a highlight in my eyes. I guess Doug sees things differently. lol

Thought I'd share my experiences with you and let you know you’re not the only one who has been let down by Mr. Stange and his staff.lol All that matters is that you caught and landed those fish. Good job! I'll be looking for your entries on-line. Email the pdf. to your friends if you want. That’s what I did in '07. lol.

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 Originally Posted By: Typenice
If it makes you feel better every qualifying fish hasn't made it's way into the magazine in the past. For example in 2007, I caught a 21.5 inch smallmouth [img]http://www.sandersfishingguides.com/photo_gallery_view.asp?ID=1470[/img] from lake Erie (region 5) and had it registered. I received my snazzy badge, species tag and letter in the mail. I too was excited and thought my fish and/or name was going to appear in the magazine. But, it turns out only a certain amount of the smallmouth entries were printed for each region that year. I missed being in the magazine by 1/8 of an inch. So, even in the past, there was no guarantee of making it in the magazine just because you entered a qualifying fish. However, I did get my name and fish printed on the "Full List" via the on-line PDF. That's where I found out I missed making it into the magazine by an 1/8 of an inch. Damn, who measures a bass at 21.625 inches??? I'll tell you who: Ed Porowski

What region did your fish belong to? I know you said you caught them in Northwest Ontario. If its region 4, you had a good "chance" of making it in there in'08 had they not "run out" of editorial space(stating the obvious). Even, some 41 inchers made it in '07 from region 4. But, you never know. To get a pic printed now that is very difficult. All of the pike pics (region 4) from '07 contained fish that were over 47 inches. Now, if your pike were caught in region 5 you would think they would be listed in the mag (i.e. 45"-44" is huge for that region) but, in '07 they didn't list a single pike for region 5 in the mag (only online). Imagine that, having the largest fish for a particular species and region and not getting in the mag!

Turns out, '08 wasn’t the first year IFM had a "shortage" of editorial space. By the way, regardless of where you caught your fish, those are some big gals, congrats and I think you deserved to at least get your name in the mag.

Anyway, this past fall my buddy Bri caught a 42 inch King Salmon (region 5) and I took a beautiful pic of it. [img]http://www.sandersfishingguides.com/photo_gallery_view.asp?ID=2049[/img] He entered it and got his "credentials" in the mail. The largest King in'07 from region 5 was 41.5 inches. So needless to say, I thought he was going to have a "full spread". It didn't happen. He didn't even get mentioned in the mag. I think a bunch of "pig" Kings were caught and registered this year in region 5 (I don't have my mag with me right now to reference but i think that was a reason). Not to mention, they only had the "Highlights" printed. Well I don't know about you but a 42" king salmon is certainly a highlight in my eyes. I guess Doug sees things differently. lol

Thought I'd share my experiences with you and let you know you’re not the only one who has been let down by Mr. Stange and his staff.lol All that matters is that you caught and landed those fish. Good job! I'll be looking for your entries on-line. Email the pdf. to your friends if you want. That’s what I did in '07. lol.

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Excellent and informative post! Thanks and welcome to the forum.


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 Originally Posted By: Typenice
If it makes you feel better every qualifying fish hasn't made it's way into the magazine in the past. For example in 2007, I caught a 21.5 inch smallmouth [img]http://www.sandersfishingguides.com/photo_gallery_view.asp?ID=1470[/img] from lake Erie (region 5) and had it registered. I received my snazzy badge, species tag and letter in the mail. I too was excited and thought my fish and/or name was going to appear in the magazine. But, it turns out only a certain amount of the smallmouth entries were printed for each region that year. I missed being in the magazine by 1/8 of an inch. So, even in the past, there was no guarantee of making it in the magazine just because you entered a qualifying fish. However, I did get my name and fish printed on the "Full List" via the on-line PDF. That's where I found out I missed making it into the magazine by an 1/8 of an inch. Damn, who measures a bass at 21.625 inches??? I'll tell you who: Ed Porowski

What region did your fish belong to? I know you said you caught them in Northwest Ontario. If its region 4, you had a good "chance" of making it in there in'08 had they not "run out" of editorial space(stating the obvious). Even, some 41 inchers made it in '07 from region 4. But, you never know. To get a pic printed now that is very difficult. All of the pike pics (region 4) from '07 contained fish that were over 47 inches. Now, if your pike were caught in region 5 you would think they would be listed in the mag (i.e. 45"-44" is huge for that region) but, in '07 they didn't list a single pike for region 5 in the mag (only online). Imagine that, having the largest fish for a particular species and region and not getting in the mag!

Turns out, '08 wasn’t the first year IFM had a "shortage" of editorial space. By the way, regardless of where you caught your fish, those are some big gals, congrats and I think you deserved to at least get your name in the mag.

Anyway, this past fall my buddy Bri caught a 42 inch King Salmon (region 5) and I took a beautiful pic of it. [img]http://www.sandersfishingguides.com/photo_gallery_view.asp?ID=2049[/img] He entered it and got his "credentials" in the mail. The largest King in'07 from region 5 was 41.5 inches. So needless to say, I thought he was going to have a "full spread". It didn't happen. He didn't even get mentioned in the mag. I think a bunch of "pig" Kings were caught and registered this year in region 5 (I don't have my mag with me right now to reference but i think that was a reason). Not to mention, they only had the "Highlights" printed. Well I don't know about you but a 42" king salmon is certainly a highlight in my eyes. I guess Doug sees things differently. lol

Thought I'd share my experiences with you and let you know you’re not the only one who has been let down by Mr. Stange and his staff.lol All that matters is that you caught and landed those fish. Good job! I'll be looking for your entries on-line. Email the pdf. to your friends if you want. That’s what I did in '07. lol.

Keep your lines tight and your drag where it needs to be!


Hey Typenice;

Thanks for dredging up these painful memories...seriously though, it doesn't really matter to me except it was a nice avenue to try and generate a little levity and magnify the irony of my situation. Further, they published a pic of a guy with a much smaller NP and who was far less photogenic than I. Sigh...it's hard being beautiful - especially when no one else agrees.

I am glad to be in good company with you though - oh yeah, and 21.5 is an INDUSTRIAL SMB! Congrats man, and double congrats for allowing its genes to remain in the watershed - a lot of guys would have mounted it.

Welcome to the Forum - glad to see another SMB fan around - and another snubbed Master Angler.

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Tj, I really feel your pain. I too was denied my entry into the In-Fisherman hall last year with my 11.2 pound Erie walleye. I too jumped to the conclusion that I was too beautiful. Maybe we should contact them to start a group for In-Fisherman Master Angler Rejects. (IFMAR)

Bruce, I think Dr. Willis and I will agree when I say....Nice hat...:)


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 Originally Posted By: tjstubbs
Tj, I really feel your pain. I too was denied my entry into the In-Fisherman hall last year with my 11.2 pound Erie walleye. I too jumped to the conclusion that I was too beautiful. Maybe we should contact them to start a group for In-Fisherman Master Angler Rejects. (IFMAR)

Bruce, I think Dr. Willis and I will agree when I say....Nice hat...:)


Well, we TJ's have to stick together - so I'm down with the rejects club.

11.2 is an incredible Eye. Congrats...post a the pics on the forum for us!


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Thanks I never keep my catch. I checked the Master Angler '08 list on in-fisherman.com and its a lot better than the pathetic text only list they had last year. This year it looks like the magazine (pics and all) except an on-line version. Looks like they were all ready to publish it and just said forget it. JEEZ. Oh if your T.J. with a 44 inch pike from region 4 I see you!! That's got to be you....looks like you have been immortalized. Well my buddy Brian got his HUGE Chinook (king) Salmon picture up there and it looks real good at the top of the list 42inches 18 mile creek, NY. I think my photo skills took him over the top. hehe. I went out on Erie yesterday and banged a 20 inch smallmouth I was thrilled as was Brian.



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Looks like a submarine - beautiful. I can't believe how nice the water looks in the background...all thanks to the invasive Zebras?


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Typenice

Help a guy out with that link to the list? I've been looking at In-Fisherman for weeks without any luck of finding the new list.

thanks in advance


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When holding a fish like that you must smile for the picture.

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 Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello
http://www.in-fisherman.com/2008masterangler.pdf


thanks bro...I didn't even think you bothered looking at the common fishermen buried in the pdf? ;\)


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Did you look closely at the carp section?


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Good lord, I need to go fish Last Mountain Lake sometime - there are tons of MA's from there - I hear it's a DRIVE IN lake only 30 minutes from Sask! Amazing.


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 Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello
Did you look closely at the carp section?


Jeezo - they might as well just have a Condello section. That thing looks big enough for my kids to swim upon dophin style.

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Yep those zebras cleared up the water and the gobies made the submarine. I love those two invasive species. Of course some of that fish's size can be attributed to her eggs. That water is beautiful and clear but is still only 43 degrees. Its funny because every time I show someone a pic of me on Erie they are always blown away by the water color. I always say "who needs to go to the Bahamas? We have the same color water in Buffalo and a lot better smallmouth fishing!" hahaha

Did you see Bruce's 40.5 inch carp on in-fisherman.com? whoa that's a big fish. We have some great fisherman on this site....they are all over that master angler's list. I thought my buddy Brian's 20 pound mirror carp was big. Well I guess its just kinda big but very beautiful.



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I've heard mirror carp cannot get as big as normally scaled carp. I can't seem to recall why. They are the same species, but it's what I recall hearing anyways. Nice looking fish, for a carp anyways... HAHA

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thanks I'll tell my buddy.

here's a pic of a 90 pound mirror. they get big alright it's the world record for any common. or at least it was on 4-9-09



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 Originally Posted By: Typenice
Yep those zebras cleared up the water and the gobies made the submarine. I love those two invasive species. Of course some of that fish's size can be attributed to her eggs. That water is beautiful and clear but is still only 43 degrees. Its funny because every time I show someone a pic of me on Erie they are always blown away by the water color. I always say "who needs to go to the Bahamas? We have the same color water in Buffalo and a lot better smallmouth fishing!" hahaha

Did you see Bruce's 40.5 inch carp on in-fisherman.com? whoa that's a big fish. We have some great fisherman on this site....they are all over that master angler's list. I thought my buddy Brian's 20 pound mirror carp was big. Well I guess its just kinda big but very beautiful.



Great fish! I love it!


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 Originally Posted By: Typenice
thanks I'll tell my buddy.

here's a pic of a 90 pound mirror. they get big alright it's the world record for any common. or at least it was on 4-9-09



That fish looks more like a leather carp but the scales are in the wrong place, near the caudal fin and not the dorsal fin...

I did a little research on the mirror carp versus common carp to refresh my memory why their growth rates are different. The difference between mirror and common carp is both genetic and visual, biologically they are similar. The mirror carp was the first mutation of common carp, owing to two alternative genes, the S allele and the N allele. The genetic term for a mirror carp is "ssnn" (all minor). This lack of scales is widely believed to have been bred in by monks in order to make the fish easier to prepare for the table. This genetic difference also causes reduced numbers of red blood cells, slowing growth rates in the fish.

Contrary to popular belief, Leather carp are not Mirror carp without scales; there is a distinct genetic difference. Leather carp are permitted a few scales; however, the dorsal row of scales is either absent or incomplete. Leathers also have reduced numbers of red blood cells, slowing growth rates as well.

So the fact that the world record carp is a mirror carp is all the more impressive!

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 Originally Posted By: teehjaeh57
 Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello
http://www.in-fisherman.com/2008masterangler.pdf


thanks bro...I didn't even think you bothered looking at the common fishermen buried in the pdf? ;\)

There was a fisherman in that picture? \:o


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Seems a lot of those big ones don't have the traditional mirror look. However, I know there are all kinds of variations throughout the species regardless of fish size. Here are a few more examples of HUGE mirrors that look like leathers but are in fact mirrors. Yeah that trait is recessive so mirror carp are in fact more rare. At least where stocking isn't an issue. Ever since my buddy landed that fish these carp have me excited. Imagine that.







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Thanks Bruce I'll tell my friend Bri you said so.

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 Originally Posted By: Theo Gallus
 Originally Posted By: teehjaeh57
 Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello
http://www.in-fisherman.com/2008masterangler.pdf


thanks bro...I didn't even think you bothered looking at the common fishermen buried in the pdf? ;\)

There was a fisherman in that picture? \:o


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