Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
Duckster, Marell, DeeDee, Dominic Greco, DannyP
18,624 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics41,180
Posts560,279
Members18,625
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,775
ewest 21,558
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,232
Who's Online Now
1 members (Pond Star), 375 guests, and 337 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#12445 05/31/05 06:17 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,892
D
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
D
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,892
My neighbor had a one acre pond that was just about taken over by pond weed and milfoil. A well meaning neighbor tossed in some small bass and I quickly added bluegill from my forage pond. I recommended grass carp and he stocked 7. I subsequently bought the place. Well, most of the weeds are gone but the pond is now a muddy mess. With neither cows nor rain, I blame the rooting carp. I was going to try some tilapia this year but they can't filter feed on mud. It is an eyesore with no phytoplankton base. We tried to catch them on nightcrawlers but no luck. My wife did catch one eighteen inch bass and a couple of bluegill so it wasn't a total washout. Bluegills no longer come to feed. Does anybody have a great carp recipe that might sucker them in? I saw one this weekend and wished I had brought a shotgun.

#12446 05/31/05 07:09 AM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 214
C
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
C
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 214
Dave,

We have about 17 of these in a 2 acre pond from 2 stockings. I want to get the older ones out and replace them with juveniles. I've heard that banana peels fished about 6 to 8 inches beneath a cork works. Do you have any trees that shed seed or leaves into the pond? If you have cotton woods or crabapples try some of the seeds or blossoms floated on a light line. Ours will take floating feed but I can't get very close without spooking them.

Good luck,

Chip


#12447 05/31/05 08:28 AM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 764
N
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
N
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 764
The Nebraska state record grass carp was caught on a shad rap. So much for convential wisdom.


Norm Kopecky
#12448 05/31/05 09:23 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,892
D
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
D
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,892
Chip, no trees directly around it. The water is so muddy that I'm looking for something that is pretty aromatic so they can find it. This is one of the stories that should start out with "Be careful what you wish for".

#12449 05/31/05 12:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 320
H
Member
Offline
Member
H
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 320
I caught a 67# grass carp on a firetiger sub-wart. My baitcaster was never the after that.
Try orange soda and corn flakes mixed together into a firm dough. Don't know how well it works on grass carp, but works really well on the common carp.


I'll start treating my wife as good as my dog when she starts retrieving ducks.
http://geocities.com/h20fwlkillr/
#12450 05/31/05 04:10 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,902
R
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
R
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,902
Sometime back someone posted they were having great success catching their grass carp on small salad type tomatos (grape tomato?)


Pond Boss Subscriber & Books Owner


If you can read this ... thank a teacher. Since it's in english ... thank our military!
Ric
#12451 06/01/05 09:12 AM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 17
G
Member
Offline
Member
G
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 17
I caught one, 21 3/4 lbs, 36 1/2 inches on a catawlpa worm on an ultra-light rod with 4 lb test line while fishing for bream. Though I think most people use some type of grain or bread and much heavier tackle. The carp fishermen I have known used a few corn kernels on a hook, around this they molded a handfull of a special mixture (they always kept their recipes secret) usually made of corn meal, grits, or millet with corn syrup as a binder, and often containing strawberry Jello (don't know why but they swore by strawberry). When this hit the water the outer mixture would disolve into the water to act as chum, this drew them to the corn on the hook. Hope this helps.

Good Luck!

#12452 06/01/05 01:08 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 112
A
Member
Offline
Member
A
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 112
A can of corn, just regular corn from the grocery. String the hook full of it. Works great!


If wishes were horses, dreamers would ride.

I must admit that I am not a fan of the Catfish \:\)
#12453 06/04/05 03:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 60
D
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
D
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 60
dave, i have 12 grass carp in a 1 1/2 acre pond. have caught 3 of them by using a salmon egg fly left over from a trout fishing trip to alaska. throw catfish pellets in the water and cast the fly in the middle of the floating pellets. chose a fly very close in size and color to the pellets. i use an 8 wt rod and 5 feet of 20 lb mon attached to floating line. i suppose they mistake it for the floating catfish pellets.

darrell stringer

#12454 06/04/05 09:25 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,973
G
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
G
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,973
Dave good luck catching them but I doubt that is cause of muddy water. I have never seen muddy water from grass carp especially that few. Common carp of course are a diff story. Just wanted to warn that you may have to battle other things b/f you get rid of muddy conditions.


Greg Grimes
www.lakework.com
#12455 06/05/05 08:16 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,892
D
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
D
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,892
Guys, Thanks for the recipe's and baits.

Greg, I'm at a loss as to what else could cause it. Cows are gone, it hasn't rained, no other fish but bass and bluegill, and it has never before been a problem on this water hole.

Here's what is causing my thinking. I have a backgound in computer programming and managing Information Systems. Anytime something acted differently, we looked at the last change we had made to the programs that affected the system. In 99% of the instances, it was something we had introduced without adequate testing or enough knowledge. I'm looking at the pond environment as a "system" or body that now contains a bug or virus of some kind. Something has changed that is causing stuff from the bottom of the system to suspend. Dirt is heavier than water and I am at a loss to identify anything else. No other neighboring ponds in the area are similarly afflicted.

#12456 06/05/05 02:21 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,097
Likes: 18
E
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
E
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,097
Likes: 18
Dave, first, we share similar backgrounds. Second, and I hate to suggest this, but are you sure bullheads didn't find their way into your pond this Spring ? Finally, how long have your cows been gone ? Could it be possible that their fertilizing effect is related and that element is now missing ?

#12457 06/05/05 06:23 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,892
D
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
D
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,892
Eastland, the cows haven't been gone long but they have always been on the place and the water has never muddied. Nor has it ever been weed free until this year. Thats why I credit the grass carp with both activities. I guess bullheads could be possible but they would have to have come this year. I've never seen any indication of them before and I've fished the water since it was new 4 years ago. Doesn't seem like bullheads could have made this type of quick impact.

#12458 06/05/05 09:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 35
B
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 35
Georgia, you are right about "carp fishers" keeping their recipe a secret. As a kid my grandfather liked to catch carp.

Secret recipe that drives carps wild is frozen brine shrimp mixed into a very dough like bait. I had a saltwater aquarium at the time and he "stole" my shrimp for his recipe. He caught easily over a hundred pounds of carp in one day.

The carp was so bad even the cats wouldn't eat it. I believe he used most of it for fertilizer after that.


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
David Didier, tac5
Recent Posts
Using A Well
by Bobbss - 07/22/24 12:54 AM
Happy Birthday to Al! (aka Fire is Hot)
by Bobbss - 07/21/24 11:54 PM
How to remove brown film/scum on 1 acre pond?
by liquidsquid - 07/21/24 10:10 PM
Reward's Diquat - Toxic & Hazardous?
by Bill Cody - 07/21/24 08:33 PM
Optimal vs. Purina
by jpsdad - 07/21/24 05:28 PM
Small LMB Gape and Proper forage size
by jpsdad - 07/21/24 04:14 PM
Cold or warm water pond in mid Michigan
by Bill Cody - 07/21/24 03:24 PM
Dock.
by Stressless - 07/21/24 02:55 PM
Fish kill - help
by Boondoggle - 07/21/24 12:27 PM
Hybrid Stripers vs. White Crappie
by Boondoggle - 07/21/24 10:14 AM
Say hello to my little friend
by Pat Williamson - 07/20/24 04:13 PM
Electrofishing service - Wichita, KS
by blavis - 07/20/24 02:11 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Major change since 2009
Major change since 2009
by SENKOSAM, July 3
Fishing with my Best Buddy
Fishing with my Best Buddy
by Theo Gallus, June 29
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5