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Is there a way to strip viable eggs from a female largemouth during the spawning season?

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This is a walleye but the technique should be the same.

Grab the stomach and squeeze towards the tail. Even if the eggs can be released they may not be viable yet. Get a capillary tube and check the eggs to see if they are clear. If they are clear they can be fertilized.



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How would I use a capillary tube to check for clear eggs in a female bass?

Heck how does one tell if a bass is a female?

I have a male warmouth I want to cross a female largemouth's eggs with.

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A capillary tube is a glass tube about the size of a coffe stirrer. The tube is inserted into the Urogentil pore(I think) and the exposed end is covered. The tube is then removed and the eggs are trapped in the tube. If the eggs are clear they can be fertilized.

If you were to insert the tube into a male milt would run out of the tube.

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Can this be done at pond/lake side?

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Yes. It only takes a few seconds per fish and no other equipment is needed besides the tube.

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Okay so how then could I transport the viable eggs back to my house?

I'd like to cross them with male warmouth milt.

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I am pretty sure that the eggs need to be fertilized immediately or it may be that the milt is not viable after a few minutes I can't remember. You could keep the fish in water, strip the eggs, then take the fish back to the pond.

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So one could not strip the eggs, take them home and then strip and add milt from the male fish?

The male warmouth is in an aquarium of mine.

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I am not sure. I bet somebody else will know.

How long will it take you to get home from the pond?

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From either pond I am thinking about 20-25 minutes if there is not a wreck.

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i feel like I need a shower after reading this.

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As Sunil would say.

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Here's some information on using a capillary tube in this thread:

http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=103567&fpart=2

If largemouth bass eggs are anything like trout eggs they can be kept in a cool moist container for up to 48 hours before they have to be fertilized. If the eggs get submerged in water the micropyle will close prematurely. (Small opening in the egg that allows in the sperm cell) Trout eggs are usually fertilized using the "dry method." That is, care is taken not to drip any water or slime from the female fish as the eggs are extruded into a bowl. Many times the male and female fish are dobbed with a towel first. Milt is then added from a male fish and the two are gently mixed. Then place in water.

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i feel like I need a shower after reading this.

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Jeez and I feel bad when I have to stick my fingers down the throat of a bass to retreive a lure.

Man you folks get up close and personal with your fish.

At least give them some pellet food or a minnow or something when your done. I believe that you at least owe them a good dinner or something.


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Any advice as to what to do with the fertilized eggs to get them to hatch?

Can I just put them in a setup aguarium and wait for them to hatch?

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That picture at the top makes me hurt.Plain and simple.

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 Originally Posted By: Gambusia
Any advice as to what to do with the fertilized eggs to get them to hatch?

Can I just put them in a setup aguarium and wait for them to hatch?

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Bluegill eggs are hatched all the time in aquarium set ups.

Here's a manual on bluegills on line that talks about this in one if it's chapters. It should apply to all the fish in the sunfish family as far as hatching fertilized eggs.

http://www.ncrac.org/NR/rdonlyres/7BBF17EA-1CD1-411D-9F0B-723EABEF0E3E/49161/Sunfish_Culture.pdf

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 Originally Posted By: jeffhasapond
Jeez and I feel bad when I have to stick my fingers down the throat of a bass to retreive a lure.

Man you folks get up close and personal with your fish.

At least give them some pellet food or a minnow or something when your done. I believe that you at least owe them a good dinner or something.


Did you know anymore that many trout hatcheries don't extrude the eggs out? (Actually most private rainbow trout hactheries buy the fertilized eggs and don't bother keeping broodstock around) They actually anesthetize the fish and poke a bycycle tire needle into the cavity of the female and using low air pressue blow the eggs out. It's actually quicker and easier on the fish, which I once took pictures of this at a local trout rearing station for my local newspaper column. I got nasty comments from the girl at wallmart who developed them. She said we should be ashamed of ourselves for the cruelty. Another misinformed person that means well but doesn't have a clue. I should have reported her to Wallmart's management. I took reference pictures of the anatomy ear postions on dead deer once to make me a better deer taxidermist. When I went to pick up the pictures I got the riot act from an employee at the 2 hour photo place. I should have asked to speak to the manager as I thought this was way out of line to chew out a customer for what he took pictures of.

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Gambusia, would you keep us updated on your progress?

This topic caused me to finaly create an account and stop lurking around here!

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Would one need to treat/inject the male warmouth with a hormone to ensure milt production?


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I doubt it, Bob, not if you were willing to get the milt in season

P.S. That's just my uneducated idiot position and more knowledgeable students/pros/Condellos are encouraged to point out how wrong I am.

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Update:

I am going to wait a little until the bass get in pre spawn mode.

In my area that is not until April-May (higher elevations)

I'm guessing then the female bass's eggs should be fertile??



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