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Posted By: LANGSTER RPS Solar - 04/14/23 09:14 PM
Has anybody tried the RPS solar AIR-200 kit? Seems to be priced right and video looked good.
Posted By: esshup Re: RPS Solar - 04/22/23 03:31 AM
Nope, never used it.
Posted By: Eastland Re: RPS Solar - 04/22/23 01:01 PM
I have the Pro1500M model and it works like a champ. Put it in myself last June and haven't had a single issue. Dropped it down 150 ft. and the 8 360-375w panels produce around 18 GPM whenever the sun is out. It actually even runs when it's overcast, it just has a slower flow rate. Their videos made it easy to install. I may look into their AIR model too, the RPS support staff is very helpful.
Posted By: LANGSTER Re: RPS Solar - 05/18/23 08:52 PM
I am thinking the RPS Solar Air 400 would be good fit for my pond. Sure wish one of you all had some info, before I spend 2K. If I get it, I was thinking of setting the pump on a wood pallet on the dam that has shade ( at least half the day) and covering it with one of those artificial rocks to keep it out of the elements. Any input would be appreciated.
Posted By: FishinRod Re: RPS Solar - 05/19/23 02:31 AM
Not an aeration expert, but I think your enclosure MUST be well-vented. Heat is the enemy of a compressor pump.
Posted By: Snipe Re: RPS Solar - 05/19/23 02:48 AM
Panels aren't big enough in my mind.. To have any flexibility you need to have a storage system (batteries) and the correct charge control and timer to make this work in the best way.
I'll see if I can hunt Brian (Highflyer) down, he's an expert in the solar applications.
Posted By: LANGSTER Re: RPS Solar - 05/19/23 01:53 PM
Thank you, I can get more or bigger panels. I think they have an Air 800 that has twice the panels. I know there is an upgrade for the 400 with 2 more panels if I need to get it. I hope that by having the pump on would pallet and in the shade at least half the day, that are would come thru the bottom and maybe drill holes to vent in the artificial rock. Any ideas greatly app.
Posted By: highflyer Re: RPS Solar - 05/19/23 02:34 PM
All,

I don't know if they are on the pond boss resource list or not, but if I were to consider this system, I would have a lot of questions. Snipe is right, battery backed up systems have a lot more flexibility. Aeration during the day tends to warm up the water. I know of very few people that have warmer water in the summer as a goal. So, batteries allow you to aerate during the evening and night during the summer and not warm up your water. The time when O2 is lowest is usually around 3-5:30 am as described by the experts. Again leading me to want a battery based system.

With all that said, the batteries they offer seem to be very small (looking at the picture, I can't find a data sheet for them). I would have to ask questions about them as well. If they are lead acid, which they appear to be, I would want them to be large enough to run for the needed time on less than 20% of the batteries capacity. So to say that in a different way, If the 100 watt pump they use is gong to be running for say 10 hours at night I would want a battery with the capacity of: 100 watts X 10 hours X 5. So if the voltage is 24 volts, you take the 100 watts for 10 hours and get 1000 watt -hours. Now take that number and divide by your battery voltage to get amp-hours needed. 1000 divided by 24 says I need 41.66 amp-hours of energy. Lets call that 40. If I want to take al that energy from a battery and only use 20%, I multiply the 40 time 5 and find I would need a 200 AH 24 volt battery for the job. You can get away with using 40% of a battery and degrade the battery's life much more, so, if that is your strategy, a 100AH 24 volt battery will do, but your battery will not live as long as one where you are only taking 20% from it daily.

Then there is the diffuser, I have no idea if the diffuser they use is efficient. In solar, everything is about best value for your energy. If the diffuser is not really efficient, you are waisting energy.

Then there is the weighted line, I would go with a larger diameter for the air line, again to save energy.

With all those questions will come answers.

I'll be glad to answer any other questions about solar, if I have not addressed a topic of concern.
Posted By: highflyer Re: RPS Solar - 05/19/23 06:35 PM
Okay, I did a little more digging. According the PDF on their site, the solar panels are UL 1703 rated. What does that mean? 1703 is an older less stringent standard especially when rating for hail. UL 61730 has been the standard since 2019. What does that mean? Well if you set up these panels in a hail prone area, they will be damaged by lesser hail than if they would have been built to the UL 61730 standard. Further these panels are in the 12 volt class. This means lower efficiencies over all. Not much, but some, meaning you are buying watts you will not be able to use. Think 85% verses 95% if you used higher voltage panels.

Again, let me know if you have additional questions.
Posted By: LANGSTER Re: RPS Solar - 05/20/23 01:28 PM
Great info, thank you. Is there a company you would recommend or 2 that I look at? Pond is .375 acre or 3/8 acre deep end 9 foot middle 6 to 7 shallow end 4 to 5 foot with the deep end being the widest part of the pond and that is where the diffuser is going. I was just trying to stay in the 2 to 3 K range and not 4 to 5 thousand range.
Posted By: LANGSTER Re: RPS Solar - 05/21/23 02:10 PM
I found a way to get power to the pond. So the unit we are looking at is the Pro Lake Mini 1 kit it appears to be turn key with 1/2 hp motor. Have any of you tried this unit? Thanks again for all your help this forum is great and you guys are always so helpful
Posted By: LANGSTER Re: RPS Solar - 05/24/23 05:29 PM
Pro Lake 1.1 is now the one I am looking at if anybody has one or knows about them. As long as I can get the power done.
Posted By: LANGSTER Re: RPS Solar - 05/27/23 02:00 PM
Putting in the Pro Lake 1.1 model next saturday and running power, I cannot wait to get them bubbles going!
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