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by canyoncreek
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Just sharing my latest adventure. I really want to get Pickerel Weed established around my pond. They are beautiful plants and able to be controlled through hand removal. I think control would not be an issue and would love to see them self-spread around the rim of my small pond.

I've been reading about how to start from seeds. There is a lot of interesting studies that tried to evaluate the best way to germinate seeds. I'll share a link to a neat study. It reviews lots of options and all the statistics make me crazy. It seems at the end of the article they could not decide what way was best.

Some argue you cold stratify first. Some say you need to have cold alternating with warm. Some have done dry germination, some wet germination. I can't find out if hard or softened water is best and whether tap water or pond water is best. I can add some nitrogen pellets (milorganite) but will that help?

Time to germinate is 10-12 weeks? That seems unusually wrong since bean seeds in the garden seem to germinate in a few days!

The helpful seller who sold me the seeds said he felt underwater germination is best and felt it best to keep at least 12 hours of light and water temps around 78-80 was best. He suggested trays of water in a terrarium to add humid warmth and a light on a timer.

Once seeds poke out some little 'tendrils' then comes the challenge of transferring them from water to a sand/potting soil mix of some type. Again the seller of the seeds had some pointers but it seems impossible that I'll make this happen. Once plants start growing then I'll need guidance on how to get them into the pond bottom and protect them from predators. I guess they 'like their feet wet' or at least can tolerate some time of submersion?

Anyway, as they say, 'here goes nothing'

I bought 2 packs of seeds and for lack of time and direction they sat in my fridge getting 'cold stratified' for a few months. I opened the seed packs and honestly cannot make out how there are 20 seeds in there. Maybe my seeds are different from in the pictures. The pictures below show large floating things which are not the seeds (they are the milorganite pellets)

Now I have 2 plastic trays sitting on a floor mounted furnace register. I have a gooseneck lamp over it with a incandescent bulb over it set on a timer for 12 hours. The water evaporates pretty fast with the furnace blowing so I'll be adding water probably ever couple days.

If anyone has a green thumb, feel free to chime in!

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For those with a lot of time and understand studies and statistics, here is the interesting article done to determine the best ways to germinate pickerel weed from seed.

Enjoy:

Optimum storage and germination of Pickerel Weed
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by Boondoggle
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We used standard garden fencing and started the bare root plant in pots to get them going before final planting. Fencing was in all year and as a bonus the frogs laid eggs in it too.
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by Bill Cody
Bill Cody
Canyon
Come down to me this late spring when they have sprouted and dig all you want.
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by J. E. Craig
J. E. Craig
I got about 60 pickeral pond weed seeds {Ebay}, yes it does take 30+ days to germinate in a container of water. You then need tweezers to put the little seedlings in a container of soil & keep it very moist. Use a very fine potting or pond soil, I used some cheap course soil & lost some seedlings. I have about 15 little plants at about a dollar a each.

Got four bare root plants {Ebay} easier to get growing @ $5 each & a gift pond lily. They have rather quickly started multiplying in the gallon pots I planted them in.

The bare rooted plants are much more predictable, easier establish & multiply faster.
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by Bill Cody
Bill Cody
Probably similar to RAH, I planted and experimented with numerous different aquatic plants when my pond was rebuilt. Some plants thrived some did not. I ordered plants from various sources. I was educating and selling plants to new pond owners mostly hybrid water lilies for period back in the 1990's. I made two speaking presentations about plants at Pond Boss Conferences; one about water lilies and one about marginal plants.
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by esshup
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Originally Posted by FishinRod
Originally Posted by Augie
Short answer - yes.

Chain Pickerel in Misery

It might be fun to fish a pond where Chain Pickerel had been successfully "planted".

A pond that we electroshocked a few years ago had them in it. Not a lot, but a few showed up during the shocking of the pond.
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by J. E. Craig
J. E. Craig
When plants are moved East-West they are more likely to do well. North-South is a different story!

https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/

I wanted to buy Eel Grass & American Pond Weed from a nursey in New England, plants there were already shutting down for the winter because of the cold. Here in Florida we are still in the high 80's. I will have to order & plant in the early spring so that the plants are in & growing before they are stressed with our 95 degree days.

If you bought yours in MI, perhaps a spring or late summer planting to get them established before the limiting stress factor in MI , your cold winters. Plants are bare root, they have lost many of their small & hair roots that they depend on to survive. They are in stress till these are regrown.

For the truly ambitious & green thumb want to be, get used gallon pots from the local landscape guy, fill with dirt & plant your pickerel weed, water once with a growth hormone fertilizer, leave outside in a sheltered area & keep moist with just water, wait till the nights are cold & then keep in the garage till spring but keep moist not wet. Once the plants are growing well plant in the pond. A slow release fertilizer tablet or two in the hole would not hurt at this time.
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by RAH
RAH
I use brushy branches from honey locust trees. They have worked well for me and rot away after a few years. By that time the plants are well enough established that they can tolerate some pest pressure. However, left unchecked, muskrat populations will explode and denude the whole pond. Fortunately, my neighbor is a trapper.
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