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I think you could get great diversity with the 10 best Baird males and the 15 best Condello females. They'll be age-2 by then and may not have the egg capacity that older, bigger fish would have. This would also allow for possible misidentification of 7 inch CSBG males as females.
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I think you could get great diversity with the 10 best Baird males and the 15 best Condello females. They'll be age-2 by then and may not have the egg capacity that older, bigger fish would have. This would also allow for possible misidentification of 7 inch CSBG males as females. Thanks Bruce!
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The other option would be 12 CSBG and 12 Bairds, because then mis-ID would be almost impossible. Then my only worry is that you could be selecting a little more for fast male maturation--but for sure you'd have mature females. Hmmmm.
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Or maybe I should give the Condello male gills another year or so and only use definite Condello females as you previously stated? I'd like to delay maturity as long as possible, and in combination with the young ages and the cages, where nests cannot be made, maybe I could do that? Bill says I'm covering new ground on that! Just my luck!  According to the research Ive's seen definite males during prime spawning season should squirt out milt from gentle pressure from the pelvic fins to the vent. However the literature warns not to cofuse urine with milt. If they appear to be males by appearance, the second test would be the milt test. And there is always a flexible catheter tube to obtain gametes which doesn't sound to difficult. I wouldn't want to damage them though. Maybe one of the biologists I know will be able to help. Here's what scary. Remember this pic I posted earlier? Sure looks like male at first glance doesn't it? It was a female with eggs inside her. Came from a dark water pond. If she had the same coloration with not as developed eggs, to me she could have been mistaken for a male. Notice she's also got a pretty good size ear tab on her. Bobby Glennon a biologist from Malone and Sons says when they sex gills for hybrid bluegill production they absolutely go for the presence of gametes and never go by appearance alone. 
Last edited by Cecil Baird1; 10/19/07 08:46 PM.
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 Those are some really beautiful bluegill! They are much more colorful than any of mine. But, which one is the BSBG, and which one is the CSBG?
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