Bill, one of the things I was told was that you get a very different looking hybrid when you have male GSF X female BG cross, it looks much different than the standard male BG x female GSF that most hatcheries produce. I agree, it is an unusual looking cross, I originaly mistook it for pure pumkinseed and thought I had caught a new state record. That's why I dug the pictures out my archives and scanned them. To be honest with you I havn't personaly seen one of these hybrids in our pond in the last 6-7 years. I do know that they seemed to be more suceptable to low DO events than our standard BG, this could be a down side to hybrid vigor. I do know know that the opinion of our biologist and the university fisheries professor that examined it was based solely on the examination of the gill rakers and not the outward appearence of this hybrid. Now I have seen an almost identical hybrid in another lake here in Lincoln, the only real difference between the picture I posted and the other ones I have seen were that the other ones did have the yellow/white tinting along the fins. These were the first hybrids we started catching there 5-6 years ago, most of the hybrids we see now look like you standard hatchery cross. If I do cath another one I will definately take lots of pictures, including the gill rakers.