CB, thanks for the tip on seeds, I haven't heard of that company so I'll check it out. I didn't see any bad weather and only 1.5 inches of rain. I would have liked at least 6 inches of rain. My scuds were stocked into my BG pond which is the one that is low and recently expanded. I have yet to see any evidence that they have survived since I stocked them. Got any hints as to how you find them if they are there?