Ok new question, my basement sub pumps pump water out into the pond and we just got a ton of rain last night (aug20th). Now my basement has flooded a few times in the short year that we have had it, my question is the pipe that runs out into the pond is below water level and the pumps keep shutting off. I have a battery back-up and a regular sub pump. Now the basement has a walk out that just fills with water and the basement fills right along with it, So does this water line out to the pond have to be above the water level, or is that not my problem. The pipe froze last year and caused my check valves to burst shooting water all over and freezing. I hope somebody can help me. One more question for Bill Cody do you live in Malenta Ohio, I used to play softball there.