You guys are great. Not only do I get pond advice here buy I can get farming advice too!

Ed: 60/40 would work for me. We won't have more than 4 horses so I am not looking to get a lot of hay from this but anything will help. (by the way I'll be in Wyoming this time next week with the family. Other side of the state though, going through Grand Teton Natl Park on the way to Montana)

Sunil: I live 35 miles from Philadelphia but only 30 minutes from Lancaster, PA. Fortunately I'm in a more rural part of SE PA - Chester County. Where my property is there are many Amish farms. They may not treat their animals the best but I like them. Honest people, good at what they do and their prices are fair. So far I've hired an Amish barn builder for a tractor barn, an Amish cupola builder for the cupola on top of the barn and an Amish deck builder will be building my dock as soon as the pond renovation is complete and before the pond fills back up. Bartering is a gret idea. I'll have to think about that. Fencing ain't cheap!