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This 11 year old killed this hog with a handgun. (Supposedly,not sure if it's the real deal)  MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Hogzilla is being made into a horror movie. But the sequel may be even bigger: Meet Monster Pig. An 11-year-old boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9 feet 4, from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail. Think hams as big as car tires. If the claims are accurate, Jamison Stone's trophy boar would be bigger than Hogzilla, the famed wild hog that grew to seemingly mythical proportions after being killed in south Georgia in 2004. Hogzilla originally was thought to weigh 1,000 pounds and measure 12 feet long. National Geographic experts who unearthed its remains believe the animal actually weighed about 800 pounds and was 8 feet long. Regardless of the comparison, Jamison is reveling in the attention over his pig. "It feels really good," Jamison said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "It's a good accomplishment. I probably won't ever kill anything else that big." Jamison, who killed his first deer at age 5, was hunting with father Mike Stone and two guides in east Alabama on May 3 when he bagged Monster Pig. He said he shot the huge animal eight times with a .50-caliber revolver and chased it for three hours through hilly woods before finishing it off with a point-blank shot. Through it all, there was the fear that the animal would turn and charge them, as wild boars have a reputation for doing. "I was a little bit scared, a little bit excited," said Jamison, who lives in Pickensville on the Mississippi border. He just finished the sixth grade on the honor roll at Christian Heritage Academy, a small, private school. His father said that, just to be extra safe, he and the guides had high-powered rifles aimed and ready to fire in case the beast, with 5-inch tusks, decided to charge. With the animal finally dead in a creek bed on the 2,500-acre Lost Creek Plantation, a commercial hunting preserve in Delta, trees had to be cut down and a backhoe brought in to bring Jamison's prize out of the woods. It was hauled on a truck to the Clay County Farmers Exchange in Lineville, where Jeff Kinder said they used his scale, recently calibrated, to weigh the hog. Kinder's scale measures only to the nearest 10, but Mike Stone said it balanced one notch past the 1,050-pound mark. "It probably weighed 1,060 pounds. We were just afraid to change it once the story was out," he said. The hog's head is being mounted by Jerry Cunningham of Jerry's Taxidermy. Cunningham said the animal measured 54 inches around the head, 74 inches around the shoulders and 11 inches from the eyes to the end of its snout. "It's huge," he said. "It's just the biggest thing I've ever seen." Mike Stone is having sausage made from the rest of the animal. "We'll probably get 500 to 700 pounds," he said. Jamison, meanwhile, has been offered a small part in "The Legend of Hogzilla," a small-time horror flick based on the tale of the Georgia boar. The movie is holding casting calls with plans to begin filming in Georgia. Jamison is enjoying the newfound celebrity generated by the hog hunt, but he said he prefers hunting pheasants to monster pigs: "They are a little less dangerous." ___ Associated Press writer Jay Reeves in Birmingham contributed to this report. ___ On the Net: Hogzilla movie: http://www.thelegendofhogzillathemovie.com
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I have some reservations about this story. I have once, only once, shot a .50 caliber revolver and won't do it again. I really doubt that an eleven year old could handle it.
Also, even though huge, the pig shows none of the physical characteristics of a wild hog. I PERSONALLY believe that it is an old domestic hog that was turned loose on a high fence "hunting" place.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but a .50 Cal. Desert Eagle has some slide action thus helping to reduce the shock.
A .50 Cal. revolver wouldn't have that making it crazy and unpleasant to shoot.
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If that kid's big enough to handle the gun (I suppose a .500 S&W is the most likely, although I seem to recall those huge bronze-frame single actions were chambered in 50/70, and wasn't there a .50 Linebaugh?), that hog must be the size of an adult rhino.
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I have to agree with Dave. I have seen lots of wild hogs and none looked like that. His nose is too short and curved up. Ears look a little to floppy. Most wild hogs won't get that big unless they have been on some sort of feed. A friend of mine killed one in South Texas that weighed close to 700lbs because it had been coming into a feedlot at night feeding with the cattle.
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...some more input, but no guarantees of authenticity. Go to the bottom of the Hogzilla page at this link .
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Ok Guys, sorry to annouce this but this pig was called Fred: Fred was raised as a family pet. He grew up in the Alabama hill country on the farm of Phil and Rhonda Blissitt. Phil had given Fred to his wife for a Christmas present, and he was fed and pampered as a dog or cat would be. But Fred wasn't a dog or cat. He was a domestic pig, and when he grew up, the Blissitts, whom Fred had learned to think of as his family, sold him to the Lost Creek Plantation, a nearby "hunting preserve." ... read the rest here: http://www.hsus.org/wildlife/wildlife_news/monster_pig_canned_hunt.html
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My next door neighbor has a pet cow that's just about as big as Fred (not really, but she is huge). Her name is Rosie. He bought her as a calf and she became family. She lives with a gelding named Zanzabar (mixed relationship; seems to work). The only thing they do is eat, sleep, and walk around a little in an area of about 1/3 acre. Rosie is danged fat. I've been meaning to post a thread to ask the cattle-guys...this thread will do just fine. Q: can a cow get too fat? What is the life expectancy? This cow is jet black, and her girth is extreme. She can barely walk. Is this a happy cow or is she fat and miserble? No PETA attitude...just wonderin' if my neighbor is doing more damage than good.
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The only thing they do is eat, sleep, and walk around a little ... I bet they drink water, and I'm pretty sure there's a least a couple other things they do, but I'm not sure I want to be the one to break the news to a city boy. Yes, Brettski, cows can get too fat. I lost a heavy one 2-3 months ago when she layed down on a slight slope with her feet uphill; with the angle her center of gravity was above the mid point of her body and she was too fat to stand up. The vet said she died of bloat, which IIRC is basically the gastrointestinal track shutting down (I.E. blockage) from lack of upright movement. We do not always check cows more often than every 24 hours and she got into trouble and died in less than that. I am sad to say I don't know maximum lifespan for cattle; since I hold a fairly fixed small herd size I am always selling old and stupid cattle. I know that they can still be having babies without any trouble at 8 years, which is about as old as I have kept a cow. OTOH the world's oldest horse just died, at age 46.
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The article at HSUS might be reasonably accurate but they have a nice play on words to make sure they victimize the pig as much as possible and make out preserves to be as bad as possible.
But it is nice to hear the story behind the story, so to speak.
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ceadmin, Also a real interesting story about HSUS can be found by googling, they aren't exactly who they appear to be. It is scary that they could generate as much money as they do.
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My opinion: On this one the anti hunting crowd is right. This wasn't hunting.
I hate to see HSUS get this kind of ammo.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa
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DD, do you have a lot of high fence operations close to you? They are all over the place out here in East Texas...
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that HSUS is pretty scary. they take the worst people and make them sound like they are everyday hunters. i hunt iv takein my hunters safety courses i follow the law they have no right to be attcking hunters like that. i think its pathetic considering it was their followers that tried to kill those whalers considering its them that try to sink ships out west that are fishing. who knows they might be attacking us next saying "its not fair the fish cant escape from the pond." i have one word for them get out of the USA if you dont like hunting and fishing we developed from the fur trapping of the french and the english colonists survived on animals they hunted. Thanks for listening to my rant but i cant stand them
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Gator, only one that I know of near me. The guy has some red stags that come up and look at you through the fence. He penned them up during hunting season. He is also raising some big whitetail bucks. I've only seen one of them and that was only once.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa
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Did anyone see the "Monster Quest" marathon on the History Channel yesterday. They had a show on huge wild hogs. They discussed Hogzilla (farm raised) and contrasted them with wild hogs. The experts have a way of identifying wild hogs versus hand raised hogs by examinging the skull.
One guy shot what was identified as a wild hog (through the skull measurement analysis) that was estimated to be 700lbs. They couldn't verify the weight (other than what the hunter said) because he didn't get it officially weighted.
The wild hog shot by this guy was HUGE. He was walking down a game trail when it charged him. He put 6 shots in it (on the TV show they showed him firing a lever action gun, looked to me like a Winchester Model 94, but I can't be certain). His buddy put a seventh shot in it to finally kill it.
In the photo of them posting beside it made the hog look pretty darn big. Perhaps it was the Condello Photography Method but I don't think so.
All I know is if I saw that thing charge me I think I would have soiled my armor. (Monty Python reference).
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