Double-Camp, Keith Wolfe has a good idea I have used BG heads and tails, works well. However I have been using chicken hearts and gizards, well seasoned, if ya know what I mean

To get there size I have BG, Bass, and Fathead minnows, pluss I feed them. I had put 6-8 inch CC in my pond about 4 years ago, I was catching the big ones in about 2-3 years. Last year I had some 6-8 LBers. So hang in there you will get them there.
