ewest, I have a club tournament at a small KS lake Saturday morning to go to, but maybe Sunday morning if time allows. The other thing is the foxtail, bullrush, and cattails in the ditch make dip netting difficult, the BG swim right into that stuff to avoid the net. The 10 gallons we retrieved last night took about an hour to get, and that's with a 2" long hole in the bottom of the dip net which I fixed after we got done.