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In spite of working 24X7 until the Dallas trip on the 1st of November, by careful and extremely fine tuned multi-tasking there has been some pond activity. Perhaps, I exaggerate some on the work part!
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A glimpse into a man's workshop is a glimpse into his soul.
Yours is a lot neater than mine.
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So now tell us what it is , how it works and the other specifics so that we won't be lost in the singularity. :p
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Theo Gallus – If my shop is neater then yours then you, my friend, have a propensity for consummate chaos! :p
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Ewest – It is a Kasco deicer mounted on a float. The grey box is a timer/temperature controller. I want to keep an open area on the pond for my pond barge (still to be constructed) and for attracting wild life that will enthusiastically drink from open water rather than eating snow and licking ice during the famous Minnesota winter. This winter is a test of performance and where to ultimately locate the deicer. The float was the easiest method to keep the deicer relatively mobile for those purposes. If you want to know more, it is all here: http://www.de-icer.com/
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Shorty – Perhaps it is a turbo-prop water spitter (TPWS)! Please see my response to Ewest for an explanation. :rolleyes:
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Actually Bruce has one at his pond for circulating the water to keep the O2 levels up in the hot summer months in his big pond. His is mounted a little differently though. You can use it as an emergency aerator too in the summer Dwight, it has a dual use. Here is a picture of Bruce's. From this thread. http://www.pondboss.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000125;p=2
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Shorty – I plan on reading that whole thread to glean more knowledge about ATP. Bruce’s unit appears to be a 3/4 HP or 1 HP, mine is just a baby @ 1/4 HP. My sechi disk reading is 24-30", depending on the area. Why is your water be so clear?
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Theo Gallus – I hope that I haven’t gone too far with my propensity for consummate chaos comment! If so, I will apologize profusely. If you are watching The Man Show on G4, then I withdraw my profuse apology!
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Mine is 3/4 hp. I wasn't aware that they make a 1/4 hp!! Where did you find that, Dwight?
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Originally posted by Dwight: Theo Gallus – I hope that I haven’t gone too far with my propensity for consummate chaos comment! If so, I will apologize profusely.
If you are watching The Man Show on G4, then I withdraw my profuse apology! You have not gone too far. Decorum does not permit me to post pictures of the collections of chaos that are my working areas (3 workbenches in the basement, a shed, and a barn), but let me assure you they are messier than your shop. I don't trust clean working areas - they must be a sign of inactivity (as opposed to jobs that take years to complete - I got those and they are NOT clean). But you, Sir, have just enough clutter to indicate a nice level of activity without the apparent presence of safety hazards or small vermin underfoot.
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Bruce Condello - As per normal my typing is suspect, 1/2 HP not 1/4 HP. They make 1/2, 3/4, and 1 HP for general sale. Have you been happy with the performance of your 3/4 HP?
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Theo Gallus - It is nice to know that I am not alone in my project completion quest. Another shop, a 59 Desoto project...
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Approximate deicer location:
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I used to figure stuff would just work. Now I do some testing. This is the test setup of the timer/temperature controller. It may still not work, but at least I am trying.
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Shorty – I plan on reading that whole thread to glean more knowledge about ATP.
Bruce’s unit appears to be a 3/4 HP or 1 HP, mine is just a baby @ 1/2 HP.
My sechi disk reading is 24-30", depending on the area. Why is your water be so clear? Great question Dwight, here is the answer, we have an over abundance of aquatic vegetation and also have tree lines that keep the NE wind from stirring up the water. Excess nutrients feed the growth of a variety of weeds rather than an algea bloom in the summer. On the positive side though we purchased and set up a couple of horizontal aerators this summer, next spring I am going point the horizontal aeraotor/circulators towards the bank in order to stir up the water and reduce the clarity in an attmpt to keep the weed growth down. I may also do a heavy catfish stocking in an attempt to reduce the water clarity that typically feeds the aquatic vegetation growth in 7-9 ft of water. If you read Bruce's excellent HA thread you will find that he originally put his 3/4 HP circulator in one of his smaller ponds which created some less than desirable clarity conditions due to the strong current, he then moved it to his bigger pond. Keep this in mind when setting yours up, you may need to move it around and play with where it is pointed if you start seeing some reduced water clarity in your pond.
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Shorty - Thanks for the info and tips on water clarity issues. I do plan to position the deicer-circulator (now that I know it has multiple use potential that I hadn’t considered) approximately 30 feet from shore in 10 feet of water. Initially I will point it toward the shore line and see how it goes. Since I have a mobile and temporary setup, it will be easy to relocate. The pond bottom is gravel and sand so I am hoping water clarity issues are not a problem. Still learning!
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Dwight, Since installing the 3/4 hp circulator my water quality is the best it's ever been. I've maintained a consistant algae bloom that gives me Secchi readings between 18 and 26 inches all summer with NO fish kills. I run mine continuously during the summer, but may turn it off from November to April since I don't care if I get ice.
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Bruce Condello – Shorty – I am thinking that even though my reasoning was suspect, I may have accidentally found a great year around solution. Open water in the winter and great water quality the rest of the year. I hate to throw a clinker in here, but, do you suppose that the current created by the circulator would make it possible for the Walleye to spawn in a pond? Perhaps that is a discussion for another time.
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The deicer/circulator went in the water this afternoon. Everything went as planned other than the wind was 25-35mph form the wrong direction. This is normal in southwestern Minnesota (the wind being against you at all times)! The orange wire ties are at 20 feet, 30 feet, and 40 feet. I didn’t want to be measuring stuff with a 10 foot tape measure out on the water! Driving a fence post into large rock gravel is an excruciatingly slow process, even with a 50 pound post driver. It looks like the wreck of the Hesperus, but I set it in the water so I could come in with my Bantam and pull it out into position. This is the view from the Bantam. This is a view from the shore. It is a good start! (editted for picture display)
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I'm a big advocate of traditional aeration setups, but for my own ponds I didn't run aerators this year to experiment with circulation in all of my ponds. So far, very effective.
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Theo Gallus - Apparently the trainee messed up. Thanks for putting it right! (edited for picture display) [October 06, 2006, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: Theo Gallus ]
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Bruce Condello - Let's keep the circulation discussion going. Perhaps at some point in the future we could assemble our ( and others ) experience and share the results with our fellow ATP ones on the PB Forum......
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