Dave, that sounds very reasonable, but my brother has talked me out of putting a tree in there at all. He thinks some people would consider it an eyesore...some people like my wife. Since we plan to have a house there, perhaps I need to stick with less visible structure. But that plan sounded like a good one. Perhaps she will run off with the cabana boy, as soon as I can afford a cabana, and I can drag the oak tree over later. We are "planting" another 18 submerged mesquite trees trees today. The trunks on some of these trees exceed 6 or 7 inches in diameter. I think and hope that they will outlast most of us. Ray Scott says that the submerged stuff lasts about forever, and for those of you not blessed with mesquite, it is extremely heavy and hard. Much tougher than oak.

Meadowlark, I will start the second topic now. I am very interested in the stocking information. Thanks all, Tom