Boomer, Theo has just about said it all and that post is a classic.

A couple or more other considerations regarding the actual planning. Mike Otto said it best. A pond is a place for fish to live. Most dozer drivers will do it your way. Make sure you know what that way is. Want a trench through it? How about a couple of humps? Swimming beach? How about a walkway around it? Want to gravel the walkway? How much runoff do you have? How much of the runoff is under your control?

Go back and read all of Brettski's posts. They are a running description of building his water hole, frustrations and all. As I recall, he was just about a rookie when he started. About 1,000 posts later, you can see the difference. Just don't tell him I said that.

It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa