PFF, you must have misread my profile. I'm actually a recovering programmer. Been darned successful at it, too. Actually, I started out as a machine language programmer on a 4K IBM 1401 before some/most of the PB posters were born. My first PC was a Radio Shack TRS80 (Trash80).I still think fondly of BIG IRON. In those days, cartoons showed us as mad scientists. I finally achieved my Peter Principle as Head of Systems Development Technology for a Fortune 10 Company. On a scale of 1 to 10, I'm a -17 in politics and got out. For the last 25+ years, I've been selling and renting programmers.

These days, I call friends children to find the ON button. As a recovering addict, part of my therapy includes not learning how to post pond pics and download threads. Under adult supervision, I am allowed to replenish the paper in the printer. A really good tech support group is key to my recovery. For example, I think I posted some of this last night but neglected to hit SUBMIT.

It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa