Have any of you heard of rc mercer on the radio? He would always say, "Well how big of a boy are you?" The core has used the quickcrtete around Lake Grapevine pretty extensivly and it looks good. Ray Scott has a formula of putting liquid fertilizer on it after it hardens to make it look more natural and to help start moss on it. I heard him talking about it at the convention but I don't remember exactly how it went.