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#6434 05/19/07 10:50 AM
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Can this pond be expanded? I'd guess it is about 1/4 acre and pretty nice but small, has bass and tadpoles...

Close up of the pond. I'd like to expand the pond as much as possible toward where the photographer is standing. Could I get up to 1 acre??? [img]http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa93/kegpond/pond1.jpg?t=1179588735[/img]

The location is toward the bottom of a gentle hill in pasture, so decent runoff should be available. Looking down the hill:

I don't know how much dirt could be moved - it is pretty rocky (at least, toward the top of
the hill).

Any thoughts? Can I make it happen? Are there any PBs near Chenango County NY who could recommend a pond builder???

Thanks!


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Being a long-time lurker who almost never posts, naturally I got this in the wrong section. Sorry!

You wouldn't think I was a computer programmer!

Keg

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It looks like it might be a good candidate for "raising the dam." Do you have a topo map you can post?


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#6437 05/20/07 10:57 AM
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Is the bottom picture where the damm eroded? Any pond can be expanded just think it over and plan it out if your rent a machine and dig some test holes for soil sampling and perk.
JUst proceed with caution you are in a valley with alot of ledge and I would see if the existing pond is a natural or man made bottom seal Good Luck


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Theo, thanks for moving my post...

Here's a topo where I've drawn the property lines and approximate position of the pond. The pond is on a (relatively) flat area a couple hundred feet east of the stream that runs along the west of the property. It is elevated 10-20 feet above the stream bed.




Scott - The eroded bank isn't part of the pond, it is a second small stream running along the south property line. Those ledges looked worrisome to me, too. The stream doesn't feed the pond. There might be a spring, but I'd guess it was mostly from runoff. The current (long time) owner says the pond was there before his time, so has no idea how it was constructed.

I'm hoping to get back for another closer look this weekend.

Thanks for the input...

Keg


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Give me an street so i can pull up a sattelite picture also town

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Does the stream actually run on your property across the corner above the pond elevation as your topo drawing indicates? Is it constant or seasonal? Not sure of the regulations in NY but if it is constant and legal the water could be piped to the pond site and then overflowed via pipe back to the creek down below. If your soil holds water it looks like you have plenty of runoff to increase the pond by raising the dam as Theo stated. If this pond is spring fed and the water table is at the present pool level of the pond then you will need to excavate the pond. It looks like the grass is very lush and green below and behind the pond site. Did you look at that area and see any signs of wetted soil or marsh? If there is no historical info about the pond and you want to find out if it is spring fed or a runoff sealed pond, pump it dry or way down. If it refills in a day or so theres your answer.... looks like a nice property good luck.



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