Bill :
I knew you were well aware of the ins and outs of chubs. The process I was talking about was not to help you ID the fish. I posted the pics and info for all of us that don't know much about them so we could read a description and look at a pic at the same time. It took a while to use Peterson's and Efish to find a match for the two. When you get the sample I will be interested to see what you think and what the pic did not reveal.