Well the biggest so far was a good 13" but they average 11 or 12. Caught the big one 2 days after Christmas. I thought they had all disappeared late in the summer. Could't catch one or see them at feeding time, then when the weather cooled they turned on. We caught them this fall on bluegill fry that I netted out of the leaves by the beach. Like I said my Mother is old school and thinks a few fish frys are in order. And Mom always knows best. My Grand daughter probably said it best when I asked her if she would be coming fishing with old Grandpa. She said "fish are food Grandpa, not friends"