Thank you George. We should keep this one thread for facts/scientific info or related studies only. Let ML or anyone else who has info, but not opinions , report pics , weights, dates, and other biological results and keep the arguments , opinions and discussion on the other thread or start a new one. That way the facts/science will be here and anyone on either side of the subject who wants to is free to argue or discuss it on the other or another thread. This will of course depend on everyone's good will.