Meadowlark, I think we are finally starting to see things eye to eye. I know "turning off feeders" won't be a popular approach, but I welcome the challenge to those who feed, vs those who strive for a naturally heavy forage base. With a heavy forage base, natural instincts remain at a "peaked" level, inviting fish with artificial baits. Programmed feeding is for commercial operations. With that being said, I do take a coffee can of feed to my fish every time I visit, it's a treat
p.s. I'm not discounting the value of feeding, I'm targeting the aggressive behavior of fish and simply don't understand the "Hook Shy" theories.