Ok, now I am totally confused with the water quality issue \:o . The following quote is from Water Doctor�s website:

�What does GPG or grains per gallon mean?
Parts per million or grains per gallon are both used to describe the dissolved hardness minerals contained in water. One part per million (PPM) is one unit of a substance out of one million units of water. Grains, or grains per gallon (GPG), is a unit of weight. It is 1/7000 of a pound. One GPG, (1gpg) is equal to 17.1 PPM.�

http://www.waterdrs.com/hardwater.htm

(Now I know why I stayed away from chemistry and physics \:o ). The the gentleman who did the test in Texas said that Gator�s water was less than 17 ppm. Also Greg stated under water chemistry the following:
"Deb, ok you are right we are going in circles. It is not my equation it is the standard way by most everyone in the pond industry. I use the same method to get the alkalinty and hardness, excpet I use a more expensive digitial titrator and can read direct results directly or use a calcualtion to get true ppm (or mg/l) Total Hardness. The formula you are using is based on the same thing, if not why do you come up with a completely differnt chart than anyone to send out to clients with the water quality report. They ssume it is total hardness and recommmend 120 when eveyrone else recommends 20ppm". But Bruce just said 60-600 ppm. HELP???
Please realize this is not a knock on the gentleman in Texas who tested the water, or on Greg (we had a nice long talk on the phone the other day and have respctfully agreed to disagree on some issues), but this is why I am still confused. Cody to the rescue please!!! I want Gator to be set up right with the water quality, and I am leaving this up to the pros (not me)!

As for the ammonia test, the procedure itself is fairly simple, but Cody is correct in the changes that can happen �in route�. When his water sample arrived it was relatively clear, but the pictures he showed here on the thread had an algae skim on the water surface. This would decay in route to me and raise ammonia levels, right Cody? Also this pond had been stagnant for a long period of time. My concern is in stocking a pond with any raised ammonia levels at all. The stress caused going from low ammonia to high could kill the fish But if the levels are low onsite, then we should be ok. As Gator said he would rather not have to add any thing.
How far do Overton and Lusk live from Gator�s pond? An onsite test would be better so we can get this accurate. As I stated in the beginning I really wanted Gator�s water test sent to me for selfish reasons. I am trying to learn this also and wanted to see the comparisons.

Thanks for the input/advice Bill and Bruce -

Deb


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