FishinRod, years ago, I did a little bow fishing but don't have the gear anymore. I learned about the refraction and aiming but these GC will show just for a split second then back under so just as I'm on one, it's gone. That's how I missed. If conditions allowed me to see into the water better, I could probably do better. Due to vision problems, all my rifles have scopes and I'm so close, I went with the handgun. Might be better with a red dot for this work.