Try fishing dead bait as dead GSF and-or BG for CC. Sometimes chumming and or baiting the CC in an area with cut bait or fish guts (offal) works to make the CC less hook shy, get them eating in one area and then completely imbed the hook in the dead bait 0ffal. When CC become hook shy one has to become very creative in ways to catch them.
Thanks Bill.
I'll try that, I don't want to hijack Mark's thread but if they even see someone with a fishing pole they disappear when feeding pellets. I'm going to use my drone to verify that, they may just not be feeding on top.
We made the mistake of throwing 2 of them back, I think they talk to each other LOL
I've fished at night several times and never caught one. Caught several YBH though.