BG for the kids is what I am aiming for. And until I allowed the BG stock to multiply (with zero predetors except an Osprey every afternoon) for the past 2 years, I thought I was doing fine. Now I have about 19.7 GAZZILLION BG's making my pond-side a great scene for an African peranha movie shot at feeding time. Question is: am I a simpleton to believe that when I finally stock the 200 LMB to start controlling the BG growth, the kids should eventually have some pretty big (ie: trophy) LMB to contend with? But I say, for those those non-biters, think SCUBA and spear guns.. (-: (ps- talked to Oreegun DFW about stocking LMG. No prob once I get permits, screen my over-flow, get inspected and buy the fish that will indeed be shipped on Greyhound.) I should have the process done by 2014,,,, sheeesh!